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Advice sought

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By Wantto Reenlist (24.98.21.179) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 07:27 pm:

I was hoping to get some advice and/or opinions on something I really want to do.

Let me start with some background. I was active duty for 3yrs. I signed up for a 4yr enlistment, but got in some trouble, had lots of problems with my wife, financial problems, etc., and ended up being chaptered on a "general under honorable conditions" discharge. I was chaptered in Nov98, my original end of enlistment date was Aug99. I was discharged as an E-2.

I really loved being in the military. I just made a lot of stupid mistakes and decisions. I really want to go back in. This time I want to enlist in the Army National Guard or Reserves. I also want to go Airborne.

I haven't been in any kind of trouble or anything like that since I've been out. I have maintained steady employment.

I was wondering if there is any chance of me being able to sign backup and join the NG or Reserves? Should I even bother? Or should I just get on with my life and forget about it?

Thanks in advance.

By 1SG (207.32.7.122) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 04:23 pm:

With a General under honorable conditions, the National Guard and Reserves will consider your application. They can waiver. You have a chance and if you think this is really what you want then go for it.

By Nuts4ridin (205.188.196.29) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 04:51 pm:

Wantto Reenlist: It sure doesn't hurt to try, right? What can you lose?

1SG: Are the National Guard or Reserves his only option at this point?

By Wantto Reenlist (24.98.21.179) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 11:24 pm:

Yes I know it's what I really want to do. I've really been thinking about it since I got out, especially since Sept.11 now I'm really determined to do it.

How difficult is it to go Airborne in the NG or Reserves? Maybe it's just my lack of knowledge, but I always thought that Airborne, Rangers, Spec Ops were strictly Active Duty, or if they were any in the NG or Reserves they had obtained their status while Active Duty.

Good question ridin...Are the NG or Reserves my only option? I was wondering that myself.
More than likely even if I could I wouldn't go back RA, no way I could afford the pay cut, but I would consider it if it were an option.


Thanks

By 1SG (199.120.69.159) on Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 10:33 am:

Again, as long as your discharge was general under honorable conditions, you can apply for a waiver if you want to go active. You do however, stand a better chance of getting accepted through the National Guard or Reserves.

As for Airborne, Guard and Reserve units get school allocations just like the active. If I remember right, there aren't a lot and are usually reserved for those who are in the combat arms. It usually for Reserves or Guard boils down to how much money they have in the coffers which will determine how many allocations that they get.

I know that there are Ranger units that are on Reserve status, but I'm not sure about Guard. Guard is a whole different ballgame because they are based on state regulations rather than federal and their regulations can change from state to state. As for Special Operations, I would think because of the nature of the beast, that they do not have them in either status, but I could be wrong there. Logic tells me that because of the special warfare that they conduct it has to be 24/7 training. This is no slam to Reserves or Guard, but Special Ops is different.

By Wantto Reenlist (24.98.21.179) on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 12:00 am:

Well I called and talked briefly to a recruiter.
She acted like I would have no problem getting in, but I would need a waiver. She also said there's no way I'll get Airborne in my contract, seeing as how I'm prior service she said I won't get it. This was an Army Reserve recruiter. I also asked another recruiter on the GoArmy website chat room and he said no chance on getting Airborne guaranteed in my contract.

1SG, I always believed the same thing you said...that Spec Ops would only be Active status. But here's something I found off of the National Guard website....."The Army National Guard also has Special Forces, the elite "Green Berets," who engage in unconventional warfare." I don't really understand how that would be...???

Any ideas on Guard vs. Reserves as far as getting Airborne guaranteed in my contract? Which one do you think will have more job options?


Thanks

By 1SG (199.120.69.194) on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 12:27 pm:

Unfortunately, like the recruiter stated, you won't be able to get it into your contract. Schooling is not a reenlistment option.

Once you get to your unit, you will have to apply for Airborne School. Depending on the unit, they sometimes only send one person per quarter, other units get higher number of allocations. Once your application is approved, then you will go on a standing list and depending on your position on the list and how many are sent per quarter will determine how soon you will go to school.

Now, don't quote me on this, but most people that I have had contact with that were Guard or Reserve didn't have problems getting to the school because they are not breaking down the doors to apply.

By Wantto Reenlist (24.98.21.126) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 09:42 pm:

Thanks for the reply 1SG.

I visited with a Reserve recruiter. He seemed like he was pretty out of it. He was an E-7. He couldn't answer any question I had for him. I don't know what his problem was. Anyway, he had me take a pre-ASVAB.

Apparently my previous ASVAB/GT score isn't any good after 2yrs, but I don't have to re-do Basic until after I've been out 5yrs??? Now to me it seems like you would have to re-do Basic training before you would have to re-do the ASVAB??? Anyway I scored high enough I'll qualify for any MOS. But like I said he couldn't tell me anything, so I don't have any idea what restrictions I'll have, considering I have to get in on a waiver.

At this point I want either 11B or some kind of Intelligence/Electronic Communications position.

1SG, in your educated opinion, considering my "past" experience, do you think I would have a better chance at getting the MOS, schools, etc. I want joining the Reserve or NG?

By 1SG (207.32.7.154) on Wednesday, December 26, 2001 - 08:50 am:

If you go 11B, you will have no problem in either the Reserves or the National Guard getting the schools that you want, especially the airborne. 11B is always short people and the more you want to advance yourself, the more they encourage it. But, if you are looking to go active duty down the road, I would go Reserve before National Guard simply for the reason that a transfer from the Reserves to Active is easier granted than from National Guard to Active. This is because Reserves operate under federal edict while Guard operate on a state by state.

With the Intelligence/Electronic Communications, getting schools might be a little harder. There it will depend on whether you are assigned to a headquarters or a combat unit how easy it will be to get schools because they are not considered "combat" MOS's.

A lot will put down 11B as just being a grunt. If that's what your satisfied with, that's cool, but it is also one of the MOS's that they will bend over backwards getting you schooling of all sorts if you want. That opens the doors automatically for Rangers, Special Forces, and just about any specialty group that you can think of. In 11B the only thing that will hold you back will be yourself. No other MOS has slottings for schools like 11B has. You can branch out into armorer, supply, engineering, training, Master Fitness Trainer, and the list goes on and on.

By Kataratos (152.163.213.63) on Friday, December 28, 2001 - 07:32 pm:

Um. This is like off subject, but I was wondering if anyone could give me some practical advice. I'm seventeen and recently enlisted in the Texas Army National Guard. I'm schedualed to ship for Basic Training in June, but I'm trying to get an earlier ship date. Two questions:

One, if I get a GED instead of a Highschool diploma do you know if that will limit me in the Guard. I know it does not affect my enlistment, but I didn't know if anyone might know if they look down on that or something. (ALL my test scores have been good...umm....I got a 94 on the ASVAB, and they said all of my line scores were very high, too.)

Second, does anyone have any practical advice about Basic Training.

By 1SG (207.32.7.106) on Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 11:21 am:

Having a GED will not limit you. The Guard will encourage you though to further your education, but it's not necessary. But since you are in the Guard, why not take advantage of what is offered. There are many schools that are offered on line and through correspondence courses that will help advance you in your chosen field if you don't care to go to college. When you start getting into the upper ranks and have to get promotion points, then schooling will be a plus because the more you have the more points you get. This is one of the ways they encourage you to further your education.

But having a GED will not hold you back or be "held against" you. It's how you do your job that counts.

As for basic, the best practical advice that I can give you is forget everything you've ever seen on TV or the movies. Go in with a positive attitude and that will do more than anything else. It's hard, demanding, and purposely stress filled. Get over it and look to your goal - graduation. Many things will not make sense to you and they're not supposed to, just do exactly what they tell you. Much of basic is by rote and given over and over again. If you listen and pay attention, there is no problem. Accept that they are going to play mind games with you and ask you to do what seems like really stupid things, but they are all designed to teach you to listen to those in charge. Don't ever get lulled into thinking that your DI's don't know exactly what you are up to and try to get away with things. Just when you think you have suceeded in getting one over, it blows up in your face. Basic does not last forever and once it's over, you'll look back and realize that it was one of the best times in the Army because that is the only time in the Army when you know exactly what is going on.

By Kat (152.163.213.62) on Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 01:25 pm:

Ok. Thanks for the advise. On the GED, I'm definitely going to college.

By Wantto Reenlist (24.98.21.126) on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 02:45 pm:

Kat, I have a GED and when I joined in '95, I had to earn 15 college credits in order to "equal" a high school diploma. I couldn't even get a waiver, it was either earn the college credits or I wasn't getting in.

But I don't know what the criteria is currently. It always changes, depends how desperate the military is for recruits. I imagine with our current state of affairs, they are probably about as in need of new recruits since Vietnam, but I could be wrong.

By kat (152.163.213.56) on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 03:29 pm:

Ok. I have ten college credits already... so that would not be a problem for me. Did they treat you any different because of it?

By Wantto Reenlist (24.98.21.126) on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 04:42 pm:

No. Actually it really never came up. I mean I believe as far as anyone in my chain-of-command thought, I had a high school diploma. But really all they'll care about is what your GT score is. My first day in my company at my duty station I must've been asked what my GT score was, about a hundred times.
With a 94 you should have a high GT score, if you have a high GT score they won't give a damn whether or not you graduated from high school.

By Kat (152.163.213.52) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 09:47 pm:

Hey WanttoReenlist,

I was looking in my Army National Guard handbook, and I found this:

"Special Forces Training (open to males only)
Soldiers who meet the prerequisites and who volunteer for Special Forces training must be airborne qualified and must attend and successfully complete the three week Special Forces Selection and Assessment Course. Students are in a "TDY and return" status during the course. Those who pass will be scheduled to attend the Special Forces Qualification Course. Soldiers who attend the qualification course must complete a common phase, an MOS-specific phase, and a final phase that combines and tests what was learned in the first two phases. Soldiers who pass the course join the ranks of professionals who serve in U.S. Army Special Operations Command assignments around the world."

"Ranger Training (open to males only)
This voluntary training conducted by the U.S. Army Infantry School, Fort Benning, Georgia is designed to develop leadership skills and provide knowledge of Ranger operations involving direct combat with the enemy . Enlisted graduates receive a special qualification identifier for their MOS code. Ranger training is availabe on a voluntary basis for eligible male personnel. Applications should be submittted according to the instructions contained in Army Reglations 614-200."

By Kat (152.163.213.52) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 09:47 pm:

"Airborne Training
This voluntary functional training conducted by the U.S. Army Infantry School, Fort Benning, Georgia, is designed to qualify volunteers in teh use of the parachute as a means of deployment an, through mental and physical training, to develop leadership, self-confidence, and an aggressive spirit. Graduates receive an additional skill identifier. Airborne taining is availabe on a voluntary basis for enlisted personnel on assignment to airborne units Eligible perosnnel volunteering for airborne training should submit applications according to the instructions in Army Regulation 614-200"


"Air Assult Couse
Obstacle courses, physical training, aircraft safety. Pathfinder operations, combat assaults, slingloading operations, rappelling from UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters, 12-mile road marches with rucksack and rifle-this ten day course is packed with challenge. To attend, soldiers must receive permission from their commander, pass the APFT (in the 17-21 year-old age group) and obtain government funding."

Hope this helps.

By Wantto Reenlist (24.98.21.126) on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 02:08 pm:

Kat, thanks for the info.

BTW what is your MOS going to be?

Where do you live in Texas?
I was stationed at Ft.Hood, by Killeen, for 3yrs.
Texas is a great place.

By Kataratos (205.188.193.167) on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 09:38 pm:

31R10--signal corps.

Terrell, near Dallas.

By Re-enlisted (63.65.68.246) on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 12:51 pm:

Does anybody still come to this site?

By Nuts4ridin (172.165.178.34) on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 09:51 am:

I do.

By 1SG (199.120.69.177) on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 08:39 am:

I come here, but have been out of the net for the past 6 weeks. My mother has contracted cancer and I have been with her. Will probably be returning when she starts chemo/radiation. Other than that I'm here when I can be.

By Nuts4ridin (64.12.104.44) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 09:37 pm:

I'm so sorry to hear about your mom, 1SG. I went through that with my mom and I know how hard it is. The good news is that she's been cancer-free for over 6 years and I'll pray your mom does as well. Keep your chin up.

By Lynn Collamer (152.163.197.187) on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 02:09 pm:

Please help rectify a problem,
My son want's to join the AFNG Reserves. In grade school I had him tested for ADD/ADHD. He didn't quite fit the description but....He was treated for less than a year to see if anything changed his unmotivated behavior. They tried several prescriptions and found them to be unnecessary. He was released before sixth grade. Of course he was honest on his recruitment application and it is causing paper problems. Letters from the Doctor, his principals and several teachers supporting the fact that he has not ever had any behavior problems or learning disabilities, have not helped. That was more that 8 years ago. He graduated H.S. He passed his apptitude tests with flying colors. He has the option of anything that he applies for as long as the physical is also A-1. There should be no problem there either. How do I address these facts in the letter they are requesting from ME? I am now sorry that I was overly concerned about my first born and his lack of motivation. It's now come kicking back at me. He does follow direction, he can and does hold and excell at employment. He is respectful to all authority. (Okay,...well,.. dishes are a problem.) What can I say/write, to make the Dr.s' understand? I feel I owe him the best back up I can come up with. NOW.. he's motivated and I screwed up his chances. I know there is a waiver available AFTER all the letters go back and forth but....I assume that may be detrimental to what ever he decides to do? Why does a ten month trial and release, which happened eight years prior in an nineteen year old's life become such a stink?!! Help me word something or?????

Thanks,
Rotten Mom, (gotta make sure things go ok, he'll be choosing my nursing home.) He got all the other letters together and to the recruiter, it's up to me now.

By Nuts4ridin (205.188.193.33) on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 10:09 pm:

Don't you dare call yourself a rotten Mom! A rotten Mom wouldn't have cared about her son's lack of motivation. You did what you thought was best. Monday morning quarterbacking is for football, not parenting! You weren't a fortune teller or psychic (I assume) so stop beating yourself up over this!

Sorry I can't help with the military side, but really, don't feel guilty about something you did out of concern and because you cared.

Go on from here and do whatever you need to do right now and no more thinking about what you should have or could have done differently.

By 1SG (199.120.69.133) on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 08:23 am:

You are not a rotten mother! You did what you felt best for your son at the time. Unfortunately ADD/ADHD is a disqualifier for service. Having a son myself who is disqualified because of ADD, I understand the heartbreak you are enduring.

The best thing you can write is what you wrote here. Explain the reasons why your son was tested and the reasons why he was not diagnosed as ADD/ADHD. Then follow through with his behavior since then.

Believe it or not, emphasize what medications (name and dosage if you can remember) he used on him and for how long. Also emphasize how long he has not been medicated. Also emphasize that he was NOT diagnosed as ADD/ADHD.

You did nothing wrong as a mother. In these days, to many people in positions of authority over our children rush to identify a child as ADD/ADHD when it is another problem all together. There are many mothers such as you facing this same problem.

The military has to protect their people and unfortunately those with ADD/ADHD can be a problem for those who lives depend on their complete attention. Statistics also show that there is a higher rate of substance abuse among these children who are so heavily medicated.

You can be proud of your son because he was honest. That speaks volumes for you as a mother. His honesty may seem to cause problems now, but in the long run, by addressing this now, he will way lay problems in the future.

Good luck to both him and you!

By Joan Tubbe (151.201.238.170) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 08:25 pm:

If you need to Raise your ASVAB score I found that www.asvab.org has a great asvab prep course. I highly recommend them.

By 5yr.MP (24.237.115.184) on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:17 pm:

Hello, I recently joined the Regular Army. I have a question regarding O.C.S. What are the qualifications for an active duty enlisted man? I am interested in becoming an officer, I am 22 yrs. old and my mos is 95B Military Police. I am looking into taking college courses while I'm in. Please e-mail me a full list of pre-requisites Thank you

By 1SG (199.120.69.23) on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 08:23 am:

Prerequisites for OCS can be found at the following:

http://www.armyocs.com/home/

By Anonymous (24.165.44.41) on Saturday, October 05, 2002 - 03:21 am:

I am currently in the Air National Guard and I am considering going active. I like the Air Force but I have a friend that keeps suggesting that I join the Army because you can get promoted faster. I would like to know what the main differences between Army and Air Force are. Any info that could help me decide between the two would be great. Thanks.

By 1SG (207.32.7.100) on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 04:59 pm:

Main difference between the Air Force and the Army is the Army is twice the size of the Air Force and the Army fights on the ground while the Air Force fights in the skies. Because of the size of the Army, there is more diversity in the jobs that you can choose from. The promotion system is different from the Air Force, but not necessarily does that mean you get promoted faster. Get in a overage MOS in the Army and you can sit on a promotion list until the day you retire.

By OLDMAN (67.200.139.13) on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 05:25 pm:

A dummy can leard a lot from listening to the 1st Sgt,Uhho forgot to put my seatbelt on.

By Andrew Ramirez (65.56.179.208) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 12:38 am:

SOME ADVICE IS VERY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!
CoNcerning Waiver INfo
I am 17 yrs. old. I recently enlisted in the Air Force into the Financing career field,( what you should know is that it was the last choice on my priority list at MEPS). I accepted the job, because my options were greatly narrowed due to the fact that I failed the color blind test.
My issue is that I originally wanted to be in Special Forces, (ParaRescue, and i still do.
Is it possible at all to take another test to waiver my color deficiancy? My case of color def. is very minute, and is truly not a handicap.
Thanks. I'd appreciate any feedback.

By Anonymous (172.130.248.224) on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 12:38 pm:

joined the U.S. Army on Feb 28 2000.We arrived to our first duty station Fort Hood, Texas May 2000.
Upon arriving He tells me of a fall in basic training that caused him severe lower back pain. He saw his PA for this several times throughout our first year here. He has never tried to not do his duty because of this pain/swelling in lower back area. Just keeps on keeping on, because that’s who my husband is. A hard worker that doesn’t allow circumstances to stop him from getting things done. After 1 year of hurting and now his right leg tingling and foot going numb, I talk him into going back to his PA to have tests run. They did test and found nothing. Gave him naproxen and pain killers etc. As time passed he went to Montana to fight wildfires with his unit Feb 2001. Upon their return went back to his PA again to see if there was anything else they could do for this now excruciating pain in his lower back, they ran more test referred him to San Antonio ”BAMSADY PAIN CLINIC” which he did .Then had neurology test run because he had numbness in his right leg and foot it was moving from foot up leg, which concerned us.

continue to part2...

By Anonymous (172.130.248.224) on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 12:40 pm:

He also had a pinched nerve that he believed was causing numbness in his right arm and hands at times, we were not sure if the swelling in his back was causing a nerve to be pinched or if this was a different thing altogether. So on his next visit to Dr.Joseph he mentioned all this. After only partial nerve conduction test were done the Dr. said there was no sense in continuing the test ,be cause he didn’t see any damage.. He then was referred to a Dr. at Scott and White. This Dr. opened my husbands Dr records Saw he was taking Zoloft for OCD, told my husband he was obsessing his pain and that he was too young to have these kind of problems. We filed a complaint on this Dr and no tests were run. The Dr. he next got back
at Darnell(Now Gone)was making notes in his records that he was malingering, “FULL OF MALARKY” and so on. We had no idea of course. He has had MRI , full body scan, partial nerve conduction test done. So to anyone not having to live with my husbands pain would wonder why it’s not been found in test run. But the bottom line is ,

See next post for final part 3

By Anonymous (172.130.248.224) on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 12:43 pm:

I see the six pack swelling on the lower part of my husbands back everyday when he gets home. He cannot walk through Wal-Mart with out starting to limp. He has had his right leg go completely numb and send him onto his face while carrying a metal pipe at the motor pool. And Just because the Dr.s Nor the test have shown what’s the real problem in his injuries , doesn’t mean that they do not exist. The next COL. He got as a Dr. told him of this. Totally frustrated that they had turned his pain and injuries into a “HA HA “ so to speak behind his back made him NEVER return for anything further ; feeling they had made a mockery of him.
He went on to the pain clinic and they recommended
him to use a tense unit belt for a while to see if this helped.
He did this for 8 months, & through NTC rotation in CA in 2002.
It didn’t help any. He turned the unit in , and was started on steroid shots in his hip joint. Though this does help with pain , as it wears off the problem creating the pain is still there.
I don’t want him to settle for MASKING the pain. Instead I would
like to find out what’s causing the pain.
again in 4 years he has never missed work or a mission because of this injury.Hasnt had a DYE test done The army doesnt like to give them..

ANY ADVICE ON WHAT TO DO FROM HERE ??
anyone TIA
army wife

PS sorry so long

By OLD MAN (209.197.60.123) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 02:00 am:

Army Wife,
Something don't sound right, If he can't walk long in a "Wal-Mak", how can he carry out his duties? No matter how "gun-ho" someone is, pain will put a stop to any funtion.
You may have a "dud" for a doctor, which is not anything new in the military but "dud" or not the doctor and/or his/her helpers does not have the right to talk about someone's illness or injury to the general public.
Suggest, while on leave, check in with your local hospital for the pain and the reason.
Only my best to you!

By Anonymous (168.73.245.58) on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 12:10 pm:

I would like someone who could help me answer my question on my situation.. I am a member of national guard since 2002 Jan. When I signed the contract, I was entitled to go through the OCS program, and when I came back from completing my BASIC, I went to OCS training. I was disqualified from the program, and now I am enlisted SPC. Will my contract go back from 6years (as per OCS program) to 4 years as an enlisted solder ? I am not an officer to serve for 6 years, on ther other hand all other enlisted solders serve 4 years. Please advice on any information that can help me. Thank you

By 1SG (207.32.7.171) on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 09:30 am:

You are still locked into the 6 year service obligation. How long you enlist for is not based upon whether you are enlisted or officer, it is based on several factors that can range from specialty schooling, length of AIT, going overseas to certain areas to many other things. There is no clause within your contract that says should you fail in any of these endeavors that your service obligation time will change. That is a constant whether you meet the conditions or not.

By martindekom (24.46.104.40) on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 08:37 pm:

Question: I am prior service USAR, E-5. I'm considering rejoining the Reserve, been out 12 yrs. Is passing the APFT a prerequisite, or do I have to pass it after I join when I take it in the normal course of events?

By 1SG (207.32.7.101) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 10:52 am:

Because of the length of your separation, you may fall within the Catch-22 of having to start all over again from ground zero. This means that you will have to go through basic again. You will more than likely lose at least on grade if not two. If you luck out and do not have to go this route, one of the first requirements will be to pass the AFPT and be within height and weight standards.

By ernestoescamilla (65.65.95.22) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:00 pm:

I am in my second year of college right now and I want to enlist after I graduate. My main goal is to be commissioned officer serving with the 75th Rangers. Anyone know if I can enlist with both Ranger and OCS options? If I go through ROTC, can I enlist with the Ranger option that way?

By ryan killian (24.160.219.235) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:24 pm:

I am a 3rd year electrical engineering major at Penn State, and recently took my ASVABs upon which i recieved a 99. Is there a site where i can learn about the jobs available to me???

thank you

By 1SG (199.120.69.110) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 09:48 am:

For Ernesto: As an officer, you have no choice about what field you go into. If you enlist, you can apply for OCS, but that does not guarantee that you will be a Ranger. Your best bet is to enlist for Infantry MOS and ask for the Ranger option. If you pass Ranger School, then you can apply for OCS. This will heighten your chances for being picked up for the Ranger officer.

If you go for a commission, you will not enlist, but be commissioned and again, I will stress that officers do not pick their fields. Getting into Ranger School will have to be your first task as an officer before they will ever consider you as an officer for Rangers.

This is not an easy task because like Special Forces, they only take the best of the best.

By 1sg (199.120.69.110) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 09:51 am:

For Ryan: Best place to see what occupations are open for you is to go to http://www.army.mil and click on their recruiting site. The list all MOS's as well as the fields that are available for officers.

By Anonymous (64.12.116.195) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 06:04 pm:

Hi I'm currently thinking about joining the Guard. I was RA in 2000, but I quit in basic training. I was diagnosed with a.d.h.d when I was a kid. I only took meds for about one year and then I didn't need it anymore. Since I decided to go back to school I started taking meds, Strattera and adderal for adhd again, because it is helpful. I can do alright without it but I can really focus with it. I'm going to join the gaurd and go to OCS as soon as I graduate from college. Im almost finished with my first semester. In 2000 I only had a GED. I feel like it would be worth the consequences to risk them finding out about the prescribed medications. I have wanted to join the military for most of my life. The respect and the leadership is what makes it worth it.

By 1SG (207.32.7.91) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 08:31 am:

You are going to have to be up front about the diagnosis of ADHD as well as the medications that you are taking. If you do not list them, they will find out and you will be discharged for fraudulent enlistment. Now for the bad news, this is a disqualifier for enlistment. You may be able to apply for a waiver, but since you are currently taking them, you will more than likely be turned down. Acceptance under waiver for those personnel who are ADD or ADHD is determined by how long it has been since you were on the medication and how much of the medication you are taking. With you voluntarily restarting the medication is an indication that you do need the meds to control your ADHD. Even if you were accepted through a waiver for enlistment, you would be turned down for OCS.

By Anonymous (169.139.176.84) on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 04:01 pm:

i have an re3 for medical,the code i believe is jhw i think. I had a pilonidal cyst.I had surgury on it.but there is a little hole.However it does not prevent me from doing everyday things,im fine,i want to get back in so bad what will my waiver process be like??

Thank you

By 1SG (199.120.69.240) on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 01:27 pm:

You do not state how long since your procedure and that will make a difference. The cystectomy to remove the pilonidal cyst has to be more than six months ago or they will not even consider a waiver. It will also make a difference if you were released early for medical reasons rather than a normal ETS. If you were released early, you will have to gather all the boards documentation. You should also gather all medical records that you had in the military in relation to this problem. From there you will have to build a history and get supporting recommendations from your doctor that you are fit for duty. Getting a medical waiver is very involved. In order to insure that you have everything you need, you need to see your local recruiter. Each condition requires certain paperwork as well as medical evaluations and letters from your doctors. Be advised that this is along and drawn out process that does not happen overnight.

By Johnson (68.89.196.77) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:20 am:

I seperated the Air Force in 1998 and I would like to rejoin the military. I am 35yrs old and on my dd fm 214 my re-entry code is 2x, I got honorable discharge but at the time I was 7 lbs overweight. Now I am in standards, can I rejoin the military

By Anonymous (24.164.3.118) on Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 11:30 am:

I was currently in the Army National Guard, I have been in would be 4 years 19 July 04. I want to go Active Army I want to keep my MOS. I just turned 38 and I have prior service and I'am very athletic and never failed a APFT. What I'm trying to say is am I able to go regular Army.

By nuts4ridin (66.82.9.41) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 10:32 pm:

Hey there 1SG! Man oh man has it been a long time. As always, you amaze the heck out of me with your military knowledge. This board is sooooooooo lucky to have you...

By Jennifer Helm (63.162.199.203) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 03:22 pm:

I have a ques if anyone can help me. My husband was active army and was discharged in 2000 for financial hardship with honorable. Well once he got out, things were worse financially so he reenlisted 2 months later. In 2002 he was discharged general under honorable with a re code of 3. He wants to go back in but we are wondering if there is a chance or are we wasting our time? If anyone knows of a recruiter who can help, please email us with a name or contact info. Thanks in advance.

By Anonymous (67.3.229.226) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 07:48 pm:

28 years old, thinking of enlisting under college first. After 2 years of college want to enter CID.
AFQT 86, GT 126 good enough?

By 1SG (199.120.69.226) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:06 pm:

For Jennifer: Your husband can apply for a waiver to reenlist and he will need to contact his nearest recruiter to get aid in how to go about applying for a waiver. But do not get your hopes up. Unless your husband can provide very good reasons why the military should take him back, his track record will prevent them from accepting his waiver.

By 1SG (199.120.69.226) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:09 pm:

For Anon: You cannot enlist for CID, you will have to become a MP first. You need at least two years in the service and other prerequisites. Your GT is good for the job. Best way to see what the requirements are for CID (for officer, enlisted, and warrant) go to the following:

http://www.cid.army.mil/

Once there click on Recruiting and it will tell you exactly what you need to become a part of CID.

By Jennifer Helm (63.162.199.203) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 09:36 am:

Thanks for posting a response. He has spoken to a recruiter has passed the physical and retaken the asvab and did extremely well on both. The recruiter stated that based on his re3 code general under honorable he needs to wait two years from his discharge date which is 07/08 to submit a waiver. Although the recruiter told him he has a very good success rate and has reenlisted many soldiers with same circumstances, I refuse to get my hopes up like you said. I will post again once we get an answer to the waiver. Again thank you for getting back to me.
Jennifer

By Jennifer Helms (63.162.199.203) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 05:04 pm:

Yes it is me again with another question. I have spent a while investigating our situation and have found some very interesting information reguarding my husbands discharge. It seems according to what I have read, proper channels were not followed. My husband was councelled, sort of BUT the commander was also supposed to transfer him to another unit to give him the fair opportunity to rehabilitate the situation. But once the chapter was started, he was given 4 days for us to clear housing and move to civilian. It has been 2 years since this happened is there any way this could weigh on the decision to reenlist him or can we now complain that things were not handled properly? I guess we are just trying to figure this out if my husband was in trouble for doing wrong, I think the Commander was no better for not following proper procedures. Just curious.. Thanks in advance.
Jennifer (again).

By 1SG (199.120.69.43) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 06:13 pm:

You do not say which Chapter he was discharged under, which could make a difference in the answer I give. Keep in mind that Army Regulations are not absolute, they have catch words like may, could, should. In processing Chapters there are several steps that are suggested for actions to be taken, but that does not necessarily mean that they HAVE to follow each step. There could have been circumstances that prevented the CO from transferring him to another unit that can range from no slot vacancies within the command to no resources available to follow rehabilitation measures. In some cases it is left to the discretion of the commander to assess whether rehabilitative measures are called for. It can also depend on what type of counselling your husband received; such as, written record, verbal counselling, outside of the unit counselling, one time shot, or a file folder full of incidents that back the initial counselling. And unfortunately in the case of Chapter discharges, they are expedited very quickly once the paperwork is submitted. Your circumstance was not unusual.

How the Chapter was handled will not be detriment towards his reenlistment because the focus of the waiver will be on what he has done since then to "correct" the situation that led to his discharge. As for trying to file a complaint at this late date, it would be almost impossible to gather hard documentation to prove the allegations as well as gathering parties involved. These types of situations are handled through the Inspector General, but must be done in a timely manner. Going in with a complaint now, you would have to be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that because proper procedure had not been observed, your husband would not have been discharged. In the long run, the worst that would happen if you could prove this is that if the CO is still on active duty, a letter of reprimand would be placed in his files, but the status of the discharge would remain the same.

By Jennifer Helm (63.162.199.203) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 07:30 pm:

He was chaptered out under chapter 13 unsatisfactory performance and in 12 years it was his first offense of any kind. He has a file full of ncoer's that were awesome. The type of counceling was the commander called him into his office gave him the written statement to both sign and that was it. he has been in no trouble since he has been out in 2 years and has maintained steady employment for the past year. He has had jobs from the time he got out. I just want to really thank you for your time in answering my posts and like I said I will keep you posted on the outcome.
Jennifer

By Anonymous (67.3.221.129) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 10:46 pm:

Hmm, thanks for the feedback 1SG. Seems I may have been given incorrect information by the recruiters. I was told that, due to my age, and college I could go directly into the CID training. I'll have to check into it further.

By Anonymous (67.3.221.129) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 11:09 pm:

To elaborate, is it possible that, because I am enlisting before the two years of college, that could allow me to go directly for CID after those two years are completed?

By 1SG (199.120.69.168) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 05:16 pm:

Unless there is some program that is new in recruiting that I don't know about, which is entirely possible, it's no to your question because CID is a stickler when it comes to their prerequisites. If the recruiter is telling you this, make him show you in writing where this is authorized, then before you sign you enlistment papers, make sure that this is a part of your contract. Read it very carefully because once you are in, you are at the mercy of your contract.

By 1SG (199.120.69.168) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 05:20 pm:

To Jennifer: Double checked and under Chapter 13, those are suggested actions, not required. Again, I don't think he needs to worry about that. His NCOER's will help immensely when it comes to writing his waiver. Good luck to you both!

By Jennifer Helm (63.162.198.124) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 12:02 pm:

So basically what determines if the waiver is approved and what do you think our chances would be? The recruiter he is dealing with is thinking very positive and so is my husband. I am the one always thinking negative until the outcome is positive. One more thing. Is it mandatory he HAS to wait until 07/08 his 2 year mark or is it up to the recruiter himself? It seems the closer to that date it gets the more stressed and nervous I get. One more question what is a more determining factor in reenlistment? The re code or the discharge status. In 2000 he was discharged for hardship was given honorable but an re code of 3 and when he reenlisted, also in 2000 his waiver was approved within 2 weeks and he spoke to a recruiter a month after he got out.
Thanks
Jennifer

By 1SG (207.32.7.104) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 09:00 pm:

He can't submit until that date, but he should be having the recruiter assist him in writing his request for waiver now. This way when the day arrives, he can submit immediately. Keep in mind that getting a response on a waiver can be as quick as a couple of weeks and as long as six months depending on who the waiver has to be submitted to and who the approving authority is. That I can't second guess for you.

If the recruiter is optomistic, then your husband stands a good chance of being approved. Recruiters tend to drag their feet with those they don't think will be approved and discourage those who are applying.

The determining factor will not be for reenlistment, but rather approval of the waiver. There are many areas that will be considered such as strength of the MOS and they will look at his prior records which this is where his NCOER's will be invaluable if they are good. But the waiver will be the biggest factor of his being accepted. What he says and demonstrates as "rehabilitation" will go a long way. This is where the recruiter will be very important in helping him put together his request for waiver. He's going to have to write a letter.

By Jennifer Helm (63.173.122.82) on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 08:47 am:

Just a quick update. Well after all that he was informed yesterday he can't go active because of his RCP. It seems his best bet would be to go reserves, complete 3 drills then go active and the chances are a lot higher that way. Is it that easy? So today he went to talk to a reservist. I kind of had a feeling something wasnt right when he called the recruiter on the 8th he told him to pick up his packet but it wouldnt be submitted until Monday. Well once again thank you so much for all the info you gave us it really did help. I will keep you posted once again with the outcome of this. I have my fingers crossed this time.. Thanks a bunch.
Jennifer

By Jennifer Helm (63.173.122.82) on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 09:24 am:

Just wanted to submit an update to you. He found out yesterday that he cant jump into active status because he met his RCP. It is kind of a catch 22. They are using his last dd 214 form which shows 2 and a half years active duty to determine his discharge status but are using his first dd 214 which shows 10 years 11 months to determine his years of service. Anyway he went to talk to a reservist today because was told it is almost guaranteed he can get into the reserves then complete 3 drills and put in for active status. So yet we have another waiting game. Thanks so much for all the info you gave us it was helpful. I will post again once we get an answer from this new recruiter.

Thanks a bunch
Jennifer

By Jennifer Helm (63.173.122.82) on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 10:53 am:

Ok he spoke to the reservist they confirmed all his paperwork from the other reservist he met with and he goes to Raleigh Mon to be sworn in. They told him once he gains some rank usually takes a couple of drills, he can put in for active status and will be in within 30 days.. Thanks again.. Will keep u posted.
Jennifer

By 1SG (199.120.69.226) on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 11:22 pm:

I caution you about the ease they are portraying about going from Reserve status to Active. They are making it sound like a cake walk, but the same problems that were present for him to re-enlist in the first place are still present in his Reserve status. Keep in mind one set said 3 drills and he will be in, next set said gain rank and attend a few drills and he will be in. That is a clue there that all may not be as it seems.

One thing to keep in mind that when going from Reserve status to Active (and this is considered a lateral transfer), he has to have his Reserve command's permission to do so. If his command will not release him from Reserve status, then he has no option but to stay Reserve. In addition, he must have the acceptance of Active Duty before he will be transferred to active status. This is just one kicker to the process that they didn't even discuss with him. I know of many on Reserve status that have waited years before approval of a lateral transfer.

Not trying to discourage you, but never accept anything that is said as a commitment. Unless it is in writing, it is not binding.

By Anonymous (4.240.39.11) on Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 08:22 am:

My son is a frontline medic in iraq. He was told he was being chaptered out for personality disorder. He's been in the army for 2 years. I was wondering if the V.A. will help get him counseling for this and also will he be able to use his G.I. Bill. He paid in the $100 a month for the first year. He is still in Iraq just trying to get him info before he gets back.
thanks

By 1SG (199.120.69.199) on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 05:49 am:

Since he is being chaptered out, many things will depend on what chapter he is being discharged under. I'm a little confused by them telling he is being chaptered for a personality disorder, companies cannot medically discharge people. In order him to be discharged for medical reasons, he would have had to go before a medical board at the very list and his discharge would not be classified as a chapter.

If the chapter is falls into the category of a general or a bad conduct discharge, there can be limitations on his being seen at the VA. However in most cases of General or Honorable and even less than Honorable discharges, he is still considered a vet. If his affliction is service related he can apply for VA disability. If it is not service related he can go to the VA and they will schedule him an appointment when the are available. The VA priority is now broken down into categories. Of this is NOT sevice related, then he will fall more than likely into category 7 which is almost the lowest on the ranking. In this category the service is also not free, but rather he will have to make a co-payment.

If he hasn't dipped into the fund, the money is still there and he is entitled to it.

By Anonymous (4.240.39.226) on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 10:22 am:

No they told him he would be honorably discharged. He did see a psychiatrist. they took his weapon from him. One Doctor went so far as to say he was suffering from PTSD. he also can't go out on missions because he injured his leg in a firefight and can't walk on it proberly. Yes I am a bit confused about it all too. No he hasn't touched the funds in his G.I. Bill.
thanks

By 1SG (199.120.69.29) on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 01:40 pm:

Did he give you the Chapter number they are putting him out under. It would be called something like Chapter 13 or Chapter 8. With the little information you have, my best guess is they are discharging him as unfit for military duty which is not considered a medical reason.

Now back to the VA issue. First thing you need to tell your son is to get copies of all his medical records before he departs the military. This is crucial because with what you have listed, he has basis for filing a claim with VA to receive disability even though the military is not discharging him on a medical. Many things the military won't compensate for, the VA will approve. Also if there is any documentation that tells in detail how he received his leg injury. His Purple Heart citation is only a brief description, the better accounting he has of what transpired, the better claim he has to it being service connected. EXTREMELY important to get any documentation from that doctor that states he is suffering from PTSD.

By 1SG (199.120.69.29) on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 01:48 pm:

Since your son is in Iraq, he will be brought back stateside for the final processing for separation. The process is started there, but they will finish it more than likely at his permanent duty station. Tell your son to request during his final outprocessing that he see the VA Representative that serves his post. They will make him an appointment and he will need to show them that he received a wound as well as the PTSD issue and request a physical for the purpose of applying for disability for his service incurred medical problems.

I stress that he does this because this is the inside track to getting a favorable answer on his application. At the very least the VA after the physical will give him a 10% rating (no money for this) and gets him a higher category rating as well as paving the path to raise the disability if his condition should happen to worsen.

If he waits until after he is discharged, then the process for not only using VA but applying for a disability rating is a nightmare at best. The longer he waits, the harder it is to get help. If he sets this up as part of his discharge outprocessing, all the information and documentation is right there and fresh.

By 1SG (199.120.69.29) on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 01:54 pm:

Keep in mind also that there are many programs that are available to disabled vets through the VA, one I think would benefit your son if he's looking to return to school, is rehabilitation training. This is a much better program than the GI Bill and does not have time limitations on its use as well as having very little out of pocket expenses.

Also would suggest to help you understand the what he can do through the VA a little better, I would suggest you go to their site at http://www.va.gov Once there click on the compensation and disability section. There are hot line numbers for assistance, instructions for applying (but again, he's better of doing this during his out-processing), programs that are offered, and where facilities are located. This might help you both to read through what they have.

By Anonymous (4.240.54.80) on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 04:21 pm:

Thanks for all the information I will send him an email and ask for more info from him. He's already been in Iraq for over 11 months. It's strange they now say he isn't fit he injured his leg 9 months ago. That's when he got his CMB. I never even heard anything about a purple heart though. I know he was on crutches and was sent to HHC while he was healing. I'll make sure he gets his paper work in order and tell him to talk to a VA rep.

thanks
again

By Anonymous (4.240.42.139) on Monday, August 02, 2004 - 10:05 am:

I little update he said he was being chaptered out under 513? I don't know what that means.

By 1SG (207.32.7.118) on Monday, August 02, 2004 - 01:38 pm:

Think he meant a Chapter 13. Basically this is saying the he is unfit for military service. This is the "catch-all" chapter to discharge personnel when they have what they will deem are disciplinary problems.

By Anonymous (4.240.42.231) on Monday, August 02, 2004 - 06:35 pm:

well that stinks it doesnt sound much like my son to me. thanks again

By jesterpsu99 (149.174.164.22) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:10 pm:

Howdy out there...

I just got discharged General Under Honorable Conditions 9 Aug 04 for Fraudulent Entry into the CA Army National Guard. I was overzealous and allowed to be persuaded by my recruiter back in December 03 to misrepresent my prior discharge in the USN in 1994, which was a discharge also General under Honorable Conditions, for a one-time urinalysis failure (Stated reason is misconduct). Are there any states that might process a waiver for this for National Guard service? I just got out in California...My physical is valid and I am ready to re-enter if there is someone out there in any state...thank you...

By 1SG (199.120.69.32) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 11:33 am:

You have two strikes against you, both your discharges and the reasons behind them. Although you may be able to waiver them, your chances of approval are going to be very slim. First problem you will encounter is applying to another state Guard if you are a resident of California. Unless you are going to be a resident of that state, that disqualifies you almost immediately. There will also be very hard questions as to why you are applying in that state and not in California.

Your best bet is to wait a couple of years and then request waiver again to the California National Guard. But I will emphasize, you had better have a really good explanation and take consequences for your actions or you will stand no chance of being granted a waiver.

All services have a zero tolerance for drugs and that discharge alone can stop any further actions for you.

By Anonymous (192.195.167.53) on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 02:26 pm:

I'm being called up for Active Duty out of the IRR but have not had a military uniform on in 8 1/2 yrs (no military duty) do I have and grounds to contest this call up or could you suggest something I could do. I'm 46 1/2 yrs old and have forgot more than I can remember about the military. My main concern is my age and the monetary hardship it would place on my family due the large difference in what I make in my civilian job and what I would make as an E-5 with 17yrs

By 1SG (199.120.69.252) on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 12:10 pm:

Keep in mind that with the call up of IRR's the military is well aware that most are in the same position as yourself. As to getting out of the call up, there really isn't much that you can do unless you have something that will medically disqualify you at this time.

I also hate to say this, but your concern about finances are not a basis. This is the same problem that faces all Reserve and National Guard units that have been called. I would suggest that you check with the company that you work for because there are several companies (like Sears and Pella) that make up the difference between your civilian pay and your military pay while you are on active duty. This is not mandated, this is just what the companies have chosen to do.

By Joe Smith (192.195.167.53) on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 07:58 pm:

Thanks 1SG. That’s what I have heard through the grape vine. I was wondering if arthritis in the Elbow with limits ability to perform tasks would be a good reason or dose it have to be more sever. I know I can't Pass and AFPT with this Ailment.

By 1SG (207.32.7.132) on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 11:30 am:

Arthritis can be a basis for medical release depending on how severe it is and how much it would interfere with the performance of your MOS. They can get around you not being able to perform the basic AFPT by giving you what is called an alternative AFPT if you are issued a profile prohibiting you from certain activities, so as you can see not being able to pass the basic AFPT is not grounds.

I would suggest that you get all your medical records together showing the severity of your condition and whether or not it is controlled by drugs. In some cases the drugs that you take can be enough to release you from service. Once you have all this together, then contact the nearest recruiter and he/she should be able to guide you on what you need to do next. If they can't help you, then submit a written request to the issueing authority of your activation orders.

By jason valerius (64.39.142.58) on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 03:03 pm:

i was in RA for 3 and hlf months,during ait was given christmas exodus leave.i went back home and there was a bunch of problems, my younger brother was 15 at the time and i kinda raised him he was getting into troulble with the law and found out he started using cocaine from a conversation i had when i got back to ft jackson 0n top of this my wife at the time stated that she was not leaving the care of her doctor,so she was not joining me once i got stationed.i got really depressed escpecially during down time of the classroom work of 63B i just couldnt consitrate on the lessons so i got a chapter 11 discharge,entry level performance and conduct with an re 3 code, separation code JGA.upon getting home i did manage to get my brother straightened out hes 25 now and doing well.for my wife we got divorced in 1997.but since 1996 i've regretted getting out, i've grew up alot since then,i had just turned 20 then, and i am 30 now and would like to become a member of an PATRIOT unit.with this discharge i got what would be the chances be of me getting back in and the waiver getting passed.any insight will be greatly appricated.

By 1SG (199.120.69.232) on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 09:29 am:

It would have been easier if you had received a Chapter 6 (Hardship) rather than a Chapter 11, but take heart, since it was a entry level discharge, you have a good chance of reentry. Won't guarantee that you will get a Patriot slot as that depends on whether it is a shortage MOS or not, but because of the war, people in your situation are being looked favorably upon if you submit a good waiver letter.

In your waiver you are going to have to address the issues that you were discharged for, which means if it's for disciplinary problems, you will have to address them head on and show how you have changed. You can site extenuating circumstance, but do not make them look like an excuse. This is where many people make their biggest mistake.

To get help in writing your waiver, I would suggest that you get the book "Guide to Joining the Military" by Scott A. Ostrow. He outlines how to write an effective waiver.

I would also suggest that you get yourself in top physical condition because of your age. The better shape you are in, the more favorably they will look at your request for waiver.

By Anonymous (66.191.127.251) on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 12:35 am:

I have a son in basic training at Ft. Benning, GA. He injured his lower back lifting logs/railroad ties. The Army is trying to tie his injury to a few Chiropractor visits my son had 8 years ago to his neck. He has not had a visit to the Chiropractor since then. Therefore, it was nothing on-going and un-related to this injury. They asked for his records, which I sent. He is now in review, in a holding room. They have offered him 9 weeks of physical therapy & a re-start (where he would lose many benefits he signed up for.) He went in as an E-3. (or) they would let him come home EPTS-injury existing prior to service, if he signs that it was pre-existing so that don't have to pay. I feel he may have made the wrong decision by signing off, but he now really wants to come home. He has hope even though they have told him it will be a few more weeks in review and then to the ready home unit.
Do you think he has a chance of coming home that easy or are they telling hime what he wants to hear for how? He is not training and will not graduate in mid-october. He arrived at basic on 7/7/04, the injury happened the last week of July and he has been in the holding room since then. He answers their phones for most of the day, and waits. He is on Naproxin and icy-hot but no therapy. They put him on a little cot with no pillow, and no longer a locker. They are calling him names (weak body limp _____) and treating him badly as he is not training. I just want him out. Let me know what you think. Thanks

By 1SG (207.32.7.160) on Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 07:21 am:

It is hard to second guess when we get second hand information. There may be more to this than what your son is relating since he has already signed off that it is a pre-existing condition.

I realize that it is frustrating to be in a holding pattern and that only reinforces him wanting to be home, but he made a big mistake in signing before his board review. I have a feeling that they didn't tell him it was pre-existing, but rather they had to review his history to see if there was a prior injury because on his entrance paper he listed an injury. This is standard practise going before any medical board for discharge. I think your son jumped the gun here and has probably screwed himself out of benefits.

This also does not mean that it is all over. He always has the option to take his case before the VA and receive compensation for the injury as well as reverse the decision that it was a pre-existing injury.

By m. t-rodrigues (209.178.188.135) on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 11:26 pm:

hey
i have a few questions concerning rejoining the army and i hope someone can answer them...my husband received a general discharge (under honerable conditions) back in 2002 from the us army.he had gotten in trouble about a few different things and therefore was chaptered out.
his re-code is 3 and the reason was jka( discreditable incidents).
now he would like to rejoin the army...he already went to a recruiter, but they never put paperwork together with him, the guy just faxed his discharge paper to someone he knew and told him 2 days later, that it would not be approved...???
is that how they do it??? because this sounds a little funny to me...well my question is: what can we do to improve a change to get a waiver? is there anything? cause he really would like to rejoin
thanks in advance

By 1SG (207.32.7.202) on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 10:00 am:

Your husband has to return to the recruiter and request a waiver. Recruiters are not allowed to offer waivers, that must come from the individual themself. The recruiter did what he was supposed to do, now it is up to your husband to decide just how bad he wants to be in. The recruiter cannot help him in writing his waiver either, all he can do is tell your husband who it must be submitted to. To get help in writing his waiver, I would suggest that he read "Guide to Joining the Military" by Scott Ostrow. In this book he tells how to write an effective waiver.

By m. t-rodrigues (209.178.188.167) on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 11:40 am:

thanks for ur answer...let me make sure i do understand this right...
my husband has to write his own waiver explaining his behavior and how he changed?
would he write that before he talks to the recruiter again or after?
do u have any idea if it is likely that these kind of waivers get approved?
thanx

By 1SG (199.120.69.86) on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:29 pm:

He will have to go to the recruiter to formally request a waiver. At that time the recruiter will tell him who he must write his waiver to. He will then return home have to write his waiver himself. The recruiter is not allowed to assist in this matter. Once he has written the request for waiver, then he will return to the recruiter and the recruiter will forward the request.

Depending on how high the command is that his request for waiver goes through will determine how long it will take to get an answer. Generally in your husband's instance, it takes anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks before there is a response.

It is very hard to predict whether a waiver will be approved or not. Since we are at war, they tend to look favorably on granting waivers if the request for waiver is truly sincere.

By MKE_DLTA (136.207.248.38) on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 02:16 pm:

If you are injured to where the doctors dont know what is wrong but your chain of command is trying to send you to Iraq after the guys there sent you back to get fixed before returning what do you do??

By 1SG (207.32.7.181) on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 10:19 am:

You will have to get the support of your doctors in order to be prevented from being sent back. If they say there is nothing medically wrong with you, then you don't have much of an option.

But be advised that in this case, make sure you have documentation of any medical treatment you have gone through and documentation of the reason why you were returned from Iraq as well as documentation showing the reason you were returned.

Your command has no option but to return you to Iraq if there is no medical reason identified for you not being able to deploy. Your only recourse when returned is to continue to seek medical help for your problem once returned. Again, though, be advised that since they can't identify a medical problem, they will be looking for a disciplinary problem if you fail in the performance of your duties. This is why I emphasize that you keep a personal record of all the documentation surrounding your problem.

By manuel quezada (198.81.26.71) on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:55 am:

this is my ques. i got out of the army 1-1-2004,with honorable discharge.2 months after i went to talk to a recluiter to rejoin the army,but 7 months have pass and i am still waiting to rejoin the army .
my ques is how long do i have to wait to rejoin the army,since i did not have any problem as active dury

By 1SG (207.32.7.144) on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 04:10 pm:

I'm assumming this was a regular ETS? If this is the case, there shouldn't be any problem with you reenlisting unless there are no vacancies for your MOS. The recruiter should have been able to tell you this the day you visited him.

I would suggest that you find a different recruiter because there should be absolutely no problem with you enlisting almost immediately.

By Anonymous (136.207.248.38) on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:54 am:

HOW DOES A MEDICAL BOARD WORK? IF THEY CANT FIND OUT THE PROBLEM CAN THEY MEDICALLY CHAPTER YOU?? OR INITIATE A MEDICAL BOARD IF YOUR INJURIES HAS TAKEN AWAY A LOT OF YOUR CAPABILITY TO DO SIMPLE LIFE TASKS LIKE EAT, WIPE YOURSELF AFTER LEAVING THE LATRINE, LIFTING,ETC.....?

By 1SG (199.120.69.79) on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 08:12 am:

Medical boards are a investigative, reviewer, and decision making process. First phase begins with an interview with the person who is being considered for medical discharge. Next comes gathering of documentation in relation to the case (which can include but is not limited to your military as well as civilian history). Once this is all gathered, then there is generally a second interview with the patient. They then review all documentation and correlate it with the interview. There is then a review process of what options are to be offered. Finally the board will make a decision as to what actions to be taken. During this process there may also be a psychiatric review if there is no medical reason for the symptoms. Once all these items are gathered, assessed, and reviewed, then a decision will be handed down. Then comes the appeal process, if it is warranted.

If there is found no medial reason nor psychiatric reason for why this is happening, then generally the soldier is released from medical holding back to their company for assessment under punitive actions for discharge.

In either of these cases, you have the option for appeal. If the appeal is refused, then you are left with living with the decision.

By Amit Patel (155.31.114.78) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 03:35 pm:

hi, my name is Amit Patel... i am currently a Junior at EMBRY-RIDDLE AERONAUTICAL UNIVERSITY in daytona beach, fl. I enlistend in the ARMY RESERVES about 2 years ago and since then have been out.

i had an AKO account which has now been disabled... the account still exists but i need someone who still has an account to sponser me ...

if anyone could please help me... i would appreciate it ...

timz.patel@us.army.mil

is my ID

my email add is Patelea1@erau.edu

By MIKEAEL (136.207.248.38) on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 05:03 am:

HOW DOES AN CHAPTER 5-17 WORK?? ALSO IF EVERYTIME YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS STAFF DUTY AND EVERYONE SAY THAT WHEN THEY GET OFF DUTY THEY GIVE THIER LOGS TO THE STAFF DUTY NCO (EVEN ON THE WEEKENDS) AND ONE DAY THE LOGS ARE LEFT AT THE CQ DESK AND THE RELIEVING CQ IS NOT GIVEN SPECIAL ORDERS OR TOLD HOW IMPORTANT THE DOCUMENTS ARE AND THE LOG IS LEFT THERE AND ALL THE CQ THAT WAS BEING RELIEVED SAID IS "IM GONNA LEAVE THESE HERE" WHO IS RESPONSIBLE IF THE LOGS COME UP MISSING? THE RELIEF OR THE ONE THAT WAS RELIEVED?

By 1SG (199.120.69.34) on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 09:41 am:

Not sure exactly what you are looking for, but discharge under Chap 5-17 means that you are being discharged other designated physical or mental conditions. Usually these are conditions that are not connected to any type of disability but interfere with the performance of your duties.

This can include but is not limited to the following:

(1) Chronic airsickness.

(2) Chronic seasickness.

(3) Enuresis.

(4) Sleepwalking.

(5) Dyslexia.

(6) Severe nightmares.

(7) Claustrophobia.

(8) Other disorders manifesting disturbances of perception, thinking, emotional control or behavior sufficiently severe that the soldier's ability to effectively perform military duties is significantly impaired.

Continued on next.

By 1SG (199.120.69.34) on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 09:49 am:

If a commander determines that either a physical or mental condition exists that inteferes with the soldiers performance of duty or his/her assignments, then the commander will request either a physical or mental evaluation. The evalutation gives supporting documentation to the recommendation for separation.

Soldier has to be counselled formally about his dificiencies and given ample time to correct his problems.

This pretty much outlines how this chapter works, however, they can start with this chapter and change to another chapter if this deals with anything in relation to any other chapter. Where the commander may not get supporting evidence from physical/mental authorities, he still has the option to handle these problems as a disciplinary action. By going under this chapter, you chances of an honorable discharge are much greater than if they pursue a different chapter that deals with disciplinary problems.

cont next.

By 1SG (199.120.69.34) on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 09:59 am:

As to the answer to your CQ question, going by the information that you have provided, the answer is the relief CQ. This all falls under the chain of responsibility that should be outlined in your company SOP. Duty logs, whether they are Staff Duty or CQ are official documents that you sign responsiblity for when you report for duty. It does not matter whether they were notified or not that there was important information within the documents. What is contained within the documents is not the relief's responsiblity, the fact that they were left with the responsibility of holding the documents is all the is needed. Every log is treated as containing important information.

If the initial authority was not there to receive the logs, then the Staff Duty did the right thing in leaving the logs with the gaining duty person. It should have been retained with the active log and turned in with the last CQ who had responsiblity for the log, which would have been the relief.

By soldiermedic (67.160.132.154) on Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 04:04 pm:

I need some advice: I recently came up "positive" on a drug test- but I know for a fact that this is incorrect. My impression is that anyone who is in this position says the same thing, therefore, what are my options? I've been in the Army for over two years, and have no marks on my record (i.e. article 15's, failed drug tests, etc.)... They are trying to have me seperated from the army with an under honorable characterization of service.

By 1SG (199.120.69.167) on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 10:00 am:

First thing you need to do is to retain counsel from JAG. They will best be able to tell you what your options are. There are extenuating circumstances for why you may have tested positive on your test from having taken an OTC drug to a prescription drug. They can get you another drug test as well as question why if this was your first positive why a second test wasn't administered to verify that this was not a false positive, which does happen.

What actions that can be taken will also depend on whether it was a urine test or a hair folicle test. If it was a urine test, JAG can arrange for a hair folicle test which present more accurate results than a urine test.

But the main thing is to get into see a lawyer at JAG as soon as possible. Even though you have come up positive, there are things that can be done.

By Anonymous (198.81.26.71) on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 12:14 am:

Hi..im the one who is trying to rejoin the army for the past 8 months now..my papel work are alredy in.like i say before i was a regular ETS , with no problem in the service and a honorable dicharge..
i would like to ask .do i can be able to rejoin the army by december or before the end of 2004.

By Starlin1804 (209.210.232.169) on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 03:39 am:

Hell, yes If you really want to rejoin the Army, my suggestion would be to try for the Cav. scout MOS, that way you would get in quicker and my son would come home sooner, or wait until after the election and be drafted.

By 1SG (199.120.69.156) on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 09:40 am:

Anon, the only thing that I can envision holding you up is that you have reclassified into another MOS. With your record and such a short time out, your's is a reenlistment that should have went off without hitch. You could have been back in the next day, but if you are reclassfying, then that means waiting for a seat date and those can be hard to predict. But if your's is just a straight-up reenlistment, you should have been back in months ago.

By manuel quezada (198.81.26.71) on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 04:07 pm:

hi,my name is manuel quezada. i got out of the army 1-1-04,and like i said before i have try to rejoin the army for the past 8 months now.thank to 1sg i found out that the recluiter who was doing my papel work,just make me waste my time..he did not do what he was supost to do,i dont understand how the army still keep this person in the services..and i know that im not the only one in the same situation with this person..i was a regular ETS,with honorable dicharge.now im working with somebady else,all my papel work are in process ..but im scare that this recluiter just make me lost my time like the other one..i would like to ask you how long do i have to wait to rejoin the army..it can be before 2004 end?..thank you for you attention..

By 1SG (207.32.7.164) on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 09:32 am:

First let me say that I hope that you have lodged a complaint about this recruiter that led you on this merry dance. If you have not, do not do it at that recruting station, but rather find out who is the regional commander and lodge a complaint there. They will do nothing about these recruiters unless something is said. And PLEASE, do not judge all recruiters by this one. Most are on the up and up, but there are few that do slip through the cracks. The only way they can be found out is by speaking up.

Since you have a new one working with, have him/her explain to you exactly where your paperwork is going and who the approving authority is. Generally because you are working outside of active duty, it takes approximately 6 weeks for the paperwork to go through. Find out when he submitted the paperwork and then keep on top of him for the answer. You should be reporting to your duty station before the end of the year if everything was done right.

Good luck to you.

By 198.81.26.71 (198.81.26.71) on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 02:41 pm:

for starlin:why dont you go in that mos..uh....
maybe you to olddddddddddd for that..so close your
mouth nobody ask youuu for suggestions.

By Starlin1804 (209.210.232.100) on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 03:54 am:

I've been 11b for too long to change, and you're right I am too old for it. But even though I'm an old man, I still have the guts to sign my name unlike the chicken-•••• who sent the last message.

By 1SG (199.120.69.216) on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 08:41 am:

Agreed. If you had paid any attention to what he wrote, you would have seen that not only did he do his time, but he is a Viet Nam Vet. He earned the right to state his opinion and has not knocked anyone for theirs.

By Starlin1804 (209.210.232.133) on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 02:55 am:

Thank you to 1sg. for the courtesy. In their defense, most recruiters are decent and capable soldiers, if this a bad one, then by all means he should be either disciplined and/or retrained. I see no reason why this young man cannot be reenlisted before the end of the year.

By 189.81.26.71 (198.81.26.71) on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 11:49 am:

STARLIN and 1SG....iwas trying to get advise from a recruiter..not from somebody who joke with other people situation.. if he was in
Viet Nam congra..i know people who also were in Viet Nam
and.. believe me they are more human than STARLIN...and like i said before keep your suggestion for yourself... maybe somebody ask youuu
for it one day..maybe...1SG who is the recruiter,you? or STARLIN ?...finally iam not a chicken..my name is nina.. im the wife and dougther of a va..

By 1SG (207.32.7.107) on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 08:20 am:

Neither and I see nowhere where you are asking advice from a recruiter, just knocking someone else who has an opinion different from your own. All are welcome to voice opinions as long as they keep from lowering it to a pesonal level, which you attacked him as a person by denying him his 1st Amendment right to speech.

By Starlin1804 (209.210.233.70) on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 03:18 am:

You seem to be a person with anger management issues, maybe that has been your problem all along. Perhaps you should try a kinder, gentler approach. As to my joking, I was perhaps a little blunt, but I am perfectly serious about the Cav. Scout MOS and about the draft.

By jennna reilly (70.179.142.162) on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 02:46 pm:

my daughter wanted to join the navy, so she went to talk to a recruiter. She has three years of college and wanted to finish school in the military...anyway, she was told that she cannot join because she is hypothyroid. i READ that one can join the military if hypothyroid and it is controlled my medication. anyone? THAT IS CRAZY. THE AIR FORCE SAID NO PROBLEM TO IT BUT HE NAVY SAYS NO.

By 1SG (207.32.7.107) on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 04:07 pm:

Each service maintains different standards based on the mission of the service. Simply because one service will accept a certain medical condition does not mean the other services will. For the Army hypothyroid is not an acceptable standard, but there is the option to request a waiver. With the waiver you are afforded the opportunity to present medical documentation that delves deeper into the problem and illustrate why you should be accepted for service.

This could be the case with your daughter and the Navy. This may be a waiverable condition. She will have to ask if it is because recruiters are not allowed to offer waivers. The reasoning behind this is because the military as a whole only want those who are healthy and physically fit without aids.

If your daughter is still interested in the Navy, then I would suggest that she return to the recruiter to see if a waiver is authorized for her condition.

By 1SG (207.32.7.107) on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 04:10 pm:

Will further add that simply because she can submit a waiver does not guarantee that she will be accepted either. She will be judged on how severe her condition is, what types of medications she is taken, how it affects her daily life, and many other areas of concern. If she makes her case, they will accept her waiver and allow her to enlist, but if she doesn't show good justification why she should be an acception to policy, then they will deny her waiver.

By Anonymous (12.221.221.214) on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 04:37 pm:

I was in the regular Army and was released on a medical discharge. I had back surgery and was considered permanently disabled. When I was rated by the VA I was found to be 20% and it was related to my knee, not my back. Anyway almost 3 years later, I was curious about reenlisting. I am in school now and stuying terrorism, but I would like experience on a national level. Should I be looking to join the military again? If possible, or seek a career with the government at a federal level? Im just trying to make some tough choices. thanks

TASHA

By 1SG (207.32.7.93) on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 06:53 am:

Even though your rating is not monetarily paid, having any type of disability rating through the VA generally indicates that the existing problem can deterioate. As for your back, are you sure you were rated as permanently disabled (which would have meant that you either had received compensation in the form of a lump sum payment or medically retired from the Army) or were given a permanent profile?

Under any one of these conditions, the probability of you being given a waiver to re-enlist is almost nil. What works against you the most is your disability rating from the VA. That is enough to block your re-enlistment before you get started. If it's severe enough for the VA to list as a disability, it is severe enough to prevent you from re-enlisting even though you are not being compensated monetarily.

Your best bet is to go into the Federal level. Best suggestion in your case is to look into Homeland Security. Do not assume that all they do is check people at the airport. Since it is still a relatively new agency, there are many levels of openings that your background in studying terrorism can get you in on the ground floor or higher.

By Anonymous (4.242.177.110) on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 02:14 am:

Hello, name is Bill, Iam Woundiring if I
can stii join.with diabitis I take oral meds also Found I have hep-c doc said it was very very very,mild said no hurry with treatment have years if want to wait.years in 10,mos,11c 6,11c 3, 76-y 1, ETS Honorable willing too take differnt mos, if nessesary EXAMPLE,mass hall,cook,DO have some medical tranning Surgical Tec, and surgical services.

By 1SG (199.120.69.40) on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 08:04 am:

I salute your willingness to want to serve, but having both diabetes and HepC, you are automatically disqualified from service and there are no waivers for either of these conditions.

By Anonymous (69.73.52.239) on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 12:50 pm:

Hi , looking for some advice on what possibly could be my last career move...Im a 31yr old single mother looking to find my way back to life. I was born into the army in Germany, and have been associated by job and relationship with the army. Now, I find myself without a job and divorced. For years I have contemplated joining up but never really had that kick-in-the-*** feeling...but now I know that I would be ready for it. My concerns are my age and my children. Would I still be able to join the military or am I too old? Although I'd like to think 31 is still young...I would appreciate any advice since I'm really starting to wonder where my future lies.
Thanks in advance for any advice given,

T.

By 1SG (199.120.69.92) on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 04:27 pm:

You have until your 34th birthday to join. Age will not be a problem because many of those joining today are in an "older" age bracket because of the technological jobs that are required. The majority of those joining are still 18-20 years old, but if you are in good physcial condition, you shouldn't have any problems.

Your problem will be your children. If you have custody, you will have to give up custody of your children for you entire first enlistment. The Army no longer allows single parents to join and you will be required to sign a certification that your intent to join is not to regain custody of your children. If you try to regain custody during your first enlistment, you will be discharged for fraudulent enlistment. There are only two legal ways to regain custody during your first enlistment and those are if the custodial parents die or if you remarry.

By Anonymous (69.73.52.239) on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 05:40 pm:

Thank you for your prompt answer....but that is a horrible regulation. I have fought so hard to gain sole custody, and for me to give it up would be like abandonement. No thank you. You would think that one should be able to join regardless and that the army would rather take in the voluntary patriots as aposed to the G.I.'s that are being called back to duty after up to as many 13-14 years of being discharged from the army.

By 1SG (199.120.69.181) on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 09:13 am:

Believe it or not, the Army and all the services are putting the children first. Keep in mind that by entering now, you will automatically be separated from your children for basic and AIT which can be up to a year. It's different leaving a spouse behind who can take care of themselves until you are re-united, but children are a different story.

There is also to remember that the military did not just do this by a whim. At one point single parents could join, but the attrition rate was so high of them not being able to handle being in the military along with balancing being a parent. When you join the military it is not like a normal job, you are on duty 24/7.

When you first come in there is a big adjustment to understanding the military way of life and it is very hard for these single parents to understand that military comes first. If your child gets sick, you can't just leave to take care of them. In many cases you spend more time away from your children than being with them. If there are problems at school, someone else has to handle it.

Con't on next.

By 1SG (199.120.69.181) on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 09:18 am:

I became a single parent during my career and I can tell you even knowing the military way, it still was hard.

As a single parent, the Army insures that you take care of your children. Every single or dual service parent must maintain a Child Care Packet that is updated constantly. Within those packets you have to outline babysitters, guardians, and back up personnel who all must have Powers of Attourny, both durable and medical. You have to have a will that outlines what will happen to your child upon your death. You have to be able to show financial responsiblity for your children in your absence. These are no small tasks to round up. There are other areas where we have to do things that normal parents don't have to because of the type of job we do.

The military is not being cruel because a single parent can become a liability because their mind may not be on their job, but what is happening with their children.

This was not a decision that was made lightly, but the bottom line was what was in the best interest of the children in relation to the job you must do in the military.

By Anonymous (204.38.200.218) on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 01:01 pm:

I am going atcive after 5 years in the national guard. My MOS is 11b and it looks like I'm heading to Germany. Any advice? I know how Active duty personal "love" us national guard guys.

By 1SG (199.120.69.179) on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 08:49 am:

Best word of advice for you is when you get to your unit, listen and absorb. You may have 5 years in the Guard behind you, but that is vastly different from active duty. They have experience that you will not have and that is where you learn the most from hands on experience. There are things they know that are not in the books and that you don't get in training.

Don't make a big deal about you being in the Guard, just use the knowledge that you have to your best advantage, but always keep an open mind. You will have things to contribute and when the opportunity arises make the most of it.

And believe it or not, the opinion of National Guard among active duty has changed greatly over the past few years. You know the importance of teamwork and make sure that you are a productive member of the team and you will have no problems.

By Anonymous (195.46.234.201) on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 10:32 am:

does anyone have any advice on the 88k watercraft operator MOS

By Sgt Charles Little (65.66.120.133) on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 04:59 pm:

Although I was selected to be an officer in the USMC from the enlisted ranks via the highly competitive MECEP program(1 of 60 Marines), I was separated from the USMC with a General Under Honorable conditions but given a RE-4 Code (not reco for reenlistment). My separation has been in the appeals and court process for six years and has not been resolved. Due the facts surrounding my separation-----(Adultery-butwas separated and did divorce and Fraternization-she was not in my CIC---- and the incompetent and horrid conduction of the board(plethora of mistakes, omissions), I'm fairly confident it will eventually be overturned and I'll be exonerated. My problem is I want to be of service during this time of need! For the longest time, I could not fathom not doing it as an officer of Marines. The time frame has come now where I could care less, I want to go ANG, enlisted even, but a recruiter told me RE codes are not waiverable and I was disqualified, is this true? Prior posts seem to indicate they are waiverable. Who do I go through and if the local recruiter...who can I go to other than that? I want in ASAP. This is killing me.Please if anyone can give me any insight, this hard dog would appreciate it immensly!

By 1SG (207.32.7.95) on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 12:35 am:

Can't say for sure, but I believe your problem here is not your RE code, but rather the fact that you are under appeal. Even though you have been separated from the USMC, the appeal puts you in a status that means hands off until resolved.

As for your RE code being a disqualifier without waiver, that does vary from service to service. Best way to know for sure is to have the recruiter the ANG show you in the regulation where there is no waiver for this code.

If there is a waiver, you may still be caught between a rock and a hard place. Waivers that are submitted are based not upon the fact that your case is in appeal, but based up owning up to the problems that led to your discharge and how you have changed since then. Since you are in dispute about the discharge, it's hard to say that you take full responsiblity for your actions and have changed since that time. See the dilema?

By Anonymous (137.140.10.50) on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 01:47 pm:

I have been out of the army since 3Jul03. I was discharged as a Sergeant promotable. I served for 9 years. I recieved a medical discharge for plantar facilliitis. I recieved 0%, which gave me a lump sum. I then went to VA and submitted my paperwork to them. VA upped my percentage to 40% they decided to give me 10% for each foot, 10% for my knee, and 10% for my back. I did not request these additions. Now I would like to go back into the Army. I have been running and excercising and I am physically able. What are my chances of reentry, and what do I need to do? Any assistance would be great.

By 1SG (207.32.7.180) on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 05:16 pm:

The first place you need to start is with a recruiter. Under most circumstances, once you have accepted a disability, that stops you from being able to re-enter. The next problem is that when you leave the service again, you will not be able to go back and reclaim these disabilities. May not be a problem now, but later in life when they begin to break down, you will get no help from the VA or the Army in any of these areas.

The VA always rates higher than the military and only gives ratings if a condition exists. Before you go to the recruiter, you will have to know exactly what your conditions are that you are rated on. If it's in your feet, exactly what is the problem, if it's your back, how is it being affected. What you are being rated on can be a disqualifier all by itself.

By SSG (69.34.147.206) on Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 09:52 pm:

Would like to know my reenlistment options. I have been in the USAR for 4 years and 3 years active. My ETS in Jan 5. I am SSG. I was considering getting out so hadnt taken any action but recently reconsidered. Am I eligible for a bonus in USAR my MOS is 63B.

Thanks

By 1SG (199.120.69.145) on Friday, December 10, 2004 - 07:02 pm:

What kind of options are you looking for? With an engineering MOS you may find there are options waiting for you to go active duty again. But be advised that going active may find you in Iraq because this is a MOS that is in need. You may even find by the time your ETS comes, that you are affected by stop loss and my not be ETSing as you thought.

Best way to find what your options are is to get in touch with your career counselor as soon as possible.

By JON (4.242.177.138) on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 08:34 pm:

I Have Been Out ANG For 6yers Now, Did Have 10yers In,Went To Reinlist And mep Said NoGO,I Have Diabitis,Went To MY Doctor And He Put Me On Oral Medication And Said I Was Find And Just Watch My Dieit,Can Still Do My PE.IS There A WAVER .

By 1SG (199.120.69.247) on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 06:53 am:

No, there is no waiver for diabetes.

By Anonymous (192.193.220.153) on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 04:56 pm:

I'm 39 years old. I did 5 years active army and 5 years army reserves. After I ETS in 1995, I obtained my bachelors degree and a MBA degree. Am I too old to reenlist as an officer? If not, what is the process? Thanks for your help.

By 1SG (199.120.69.37) on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 06:39 pm:

First, you would not reenlist as an officer. You may be able to apply for a direct commission, but bottom line here is that in order to reenlist, you will still be enlisted. Second because you are prior service, you are still within the parameters to reenlist age wise, if I remember right. Third to get a direct commission; however, you may be beyond the age limit in spite of your prior service time.

These rules tend to be flexible depending on circumstances and what you are going for. Your best bet is to talk to a recruiter because you are looking to go officer as opposed to enlisted and that's a whole different ballgame.

By Cretul (24.136.55.206) on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 09:42 pm:

Hi I am a junior enlisted soldier preparing to head off to my AIT school in Arizona. 97B... I am currently contracted with the army national gaurd, but recently married and my husband is regular army. I would like to change componets as fast as possible to be with him... Where do I go and how do I go about this? Also we are not sure what to do as far as seperation pay, BAH, and how I can get assigned to his duty station with him (after AIT of course). I appreciate any information.
Pfc Cretul, Erin

By 1SG (199.120.69.102) on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 08:29 am:

First thing that you will need to do is go to your PAC (adminstrative section) and start the paperwork for a lateral transfer. This is the request to go from National Guard to Active Duty. Be advised, though, because in many cases they will not consider a lateral transfer until you are eligible for re-enlistment; however, with things as they are today, they may consider your request now.

Separation pay will only apply if your unit is activated for movement for you. In your husbands case, he will have to apply for it through his PAC. Your husband will also have to apply for BAH through his PAC and will receive BAH with dependent rate. If you were activated, then both you and your husband would apply and receive BAH at the single rate.

Until you go active duty status, the best you can do to get stationed where he is, is to request that you be transferred to the nearest Guard unit in his area. When you become active duty, you and your husband will have to apply through your PAC to become a part of the Army Married Couples Program. This does not guarantee that you will be assigned together, only means that they will try and if there is a slot available, you will be assigned at the same post.

By Joe Smith (204.253.245.126) on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 10:00 am:

1ST SGT I had talked to you back in Aug.16.2004 about Medical problems I had and what could I do about getting and Exemption from the IRR call for Involuntary Mobilization. Since that time I have submitted a packet to the Army Exemption Board.

One of the medical problems I submitted was dealing with a chronic arthritis in my C5-6 cervical discs of my neck. I have gone to two doctors one being a specialist in this field who informed me that my C5-6 cervical disc is deteriorating and was the root cause for headraces and other problems; i.e. numbness in my hands and would not get better, but continue to deteriorate as time goes on. Both Doctors have places me on light duty at work because there is a good possibility I could cause more damage to my neck. I am not allowed to pick up or push anything over 50 pounds.

This would mean I could not do the rigorous duty of a 22J as per army Regs. (as to what the solders abilities need to be to have this type of MOS)... My question to you is can the Army over ride what two separate civilian Docs orders are for my light duty to meet there needs?

By 1SG (207.32.7.137) on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 01:47 pm:

Generally they won't override what a civilian doctor recommends, especially when you have two authorities, but these are strange days. There is a possibilty to backdoor them, though. Being a vet, you can go to the VA. Now the VA is pretty overloaded, but as a vet, you do have the right to be seen (and with what you have, you can get seen under the premise of applying for disability if you can connect your problem with the service in any way which will get you in the door quicker). You can also request to see a VA doctor to get supporting evidence of this existing condition because of your request for exemption. If the VA goes with the prognosis, then you have strengthen your case even further. This is just a suggestion to help support your case as well as making it hard for the military to overturn what the civilian doctors recommend.

By Joe Smith (65.240.79.60) on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 05:43 pm:

1ST SGT should I seek a Lawyers advice...One who is a specialist in Military Law?
I will be speaking with the Surgeon General Monday. He was the one who told me my exemption was denied in not so many words on my answering machine and if I was going to make an appeal they need more information, but this was in reference to a different medical problem I submitted for which I have no more information to give them.

Should I bring this neck problem to his attention? This would be about the Doctors who have put me on light duty? I did send this information to the Exemption Board Team... I guess he is not the person who actually denies my request but has to report his conclusions back to the Exemption board Team correct? But did he get this information about the neck is what I’m wondering.
They have given me 30 days to submit more information on medical condition or proceed to Ft Jackson for medical...

By 1SG (199.120.69.243) on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 11:26 pm:

I can only give you my personal opinion. At this point when they deny an exemption, I would get a lawyer to help you proceed and one with a background in military law would be of great help. The reason I advise this is because when you start getting into the appeal process, there are things a lawyer can get, like a continuance, that you don't know how to file for. 30 days may seem like a long time, but since you don't have the actual written reason for your denial in front of you, there will be points that you will miss. Lawyers are great with delaying tactics.

I would mention the neck problem, but get ready for him to dismiss it since it wasn't in the original request. I say this because even though the decision is made by the Exemption Board, the Surgeon General can override their decision if he wants to.

Again, this is where a lawyer will be handy because he will know how to introduce the neck problem in addition to your original problem without it being denied in evidence, which sometimes can happen because it's not related to the original problem and is not considered clarifying evidence in support.

You may also want to inquire with whatever lawyer you retain about being included in the class action suit that is being brought forth by some IRRs to stop the recall. I don't know any specifics on this, only know that there is one being started and that can also put your reporting on hold.

By Joe Smith (65.240.79.60) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 08:10 am:

Just to clarify something I did put the Neck problem in the original request along with the 2 doctor’s findings... I just didn't send in X-rays which I would be more than willing to FedEx to the Surgeon General... I can always get new X-rays if they end up losing them... This neck thing is not going to go away :-)

Again 1 St SGT I do thank you for your information and suggestions. I am where I am right now thanks to no small part to you. Especially when other people said I couldn't even file and Exemption. If I would have gave up I would have reported to Ft Jackson back in Oct 27, 04 (My original orders) Don't get me wrong 1 ST STG, I not afraid to server my country I think I have for 19 yrs. My body is just not up to the Task anymore... I have a wife with her own personnel problems I need to tend too. My Family is more important to me @ age 47... I think if the army was going to be interested in me they should have kept me in the loop for the past 8 yrs then to just let me slide through the system with out making me do any annual training...

By 1SG (199.120.69.111) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 04:09 pm:

The X-rays are more critical than you think, don't just Fed-Ex them because if they are lost, you are back to ground zero again. Before you send them off, see if you can get a copy where you had them done. This way your bases are covered and they are not the exclusive holders of anything.

Believe me, I understand what you are going through and am glad I could be of help. As you stated with this neck problem, you do not fit the requirements of your MOS. This is something else the lawyer can help emphasize because this means that you will have a permanent profile. Whether the determine it's a P2 or a P3 will be very important because if it's a P3, you cannot serve. That ruling was made back in the 80's that anyone with a P3 profile was either discharged or had to voluntarily have it lifted. Foolish me picked the second option and I am paying for it dearly.

By Joe Smith (204.253.245.126) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 05:02 pm:

Thanks 1st SGT... I'll let you know how it all works out in two weeks... If I don't come up with more questons.

By Anonymous (152.163.100.139) on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 12:12 pm:

hi I need some help. Please, my son is in ft. benning Georgia in basic training. He came home for christmas and realized that he is having problems paying his bills with what the military pays him. He is worried about having bad credit. Also he is a newlywed and he is emotional unstable wondering how he is going to support his wife with bad credit. Could you please tell me is there any way he can get out of the military without having dishonorable discharge on his record. He has only been in for about 60 days

By 1SG (199.120.69.156) on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 04:00 pm:

First thing as a Mom that you must realize is that they will not immediately discharge him for bad credit. There are steps that have to followed in getting him help before that is even considered. If your son is bouncing checks, they will send him to a class to learn how to use a check book. They will send him to classes to learn how to balance a budget. His wife will be included in all of these too. But before he gets to this stage, the best thing he can do is to seek help voluntarily. The first place he needs to go is the ACS (Army Community Services). This is one of the areas that will help him get his finances in order. They even help those who are in so deep that they can't get out to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy so they can get a clean start. ACS will work with him if he just asks for help. He doesn't have to sit around and worry about this. ACS even has the power to help assit him in getting a loan from ACS if need be to get his finances in a position where he becomes more financially stable. At the very least they can help him get a Health and Welfare payment from the Army to allow them to purchase food if need be.

The only way the Army will discharge him under these circumstances is if he refuses to get help and follow what he is taught in budgeting and using his money wisely. He and his wife may have to do without a lot of "luxuries" that we take for granted, but they will get him to a point where he is solvent and able to provide for his family. He is more than likely eligible for food stamps and if he hasn't taken advantage of that, then he needs to swallow his pride and do what is best for him and his family.

I will emphasize that your son needs to act now by going to ACS and getting help before things are to the point where he can't get out from under.

By Anonymous (67.125.215.241) on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 03:07 am:

I am looking for some information please. I am 42 years old. I did 9 years active with the 82nd. I ETS in Aug 96. I have hardware and am rated at 40% from the VA with pension. I would like to joint the Army National Gaurd if posible to help out. I am not looking to be on deployable status or Gaurd pay. I am a EMT and Power Generation Specialist. I have alot I can teach and support. Is there any way I can help out?
Thanks

By 1SG (199.120.69.110) on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 08:22 am:

Good for you in wanting to be of service! First I think you already know that your "hardware" and you disability disqualify you from joining the Guard. Only way to know if you can be of help (with your background in the military perhaps come in and teach classes to their EMTs in how to apply EMT methods in a combat atmosphere or some type of relative subject) is to contact your nearest Guard unit and sit down and talk with them. They usually don't let people do things like this, but these are hard times. You may have something to offer that they can use.

There is also something else to consider. Have you ever looked into Civil Service? You may find a nitch going that avenue.

By linda knight (151.196.179.218) on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 11:55 pm:

1ST SGT,
Can you assist me? I don't know where to turn. I am an IRR who has been called up. I was to report in October and I submitted for an exeption. I server honorable for 18 years and took the early out to take care of my mother who was dying of cancer. As an only child, mom of 2, foster mom of two and wife to a service member serving in Korea, I didn't have much of a choice. That was 12 yrs ago. I left with a documented P3 profile for my knee and documented deterrioration of the C5- C7. During my April 04 physical for the IRR I was assessed with a PULHIS code of 312121. That is not even taking into consideration the P3 for my knee. In September I was diagnosed at Walter Reed with Rheumatoid Arthritis in my wrists, elbows and feet. I was also diagnosed with Sjogren Syndrom a type of auto immune disease that is associated with the RA. Sjogren's attacks the saliva glands and tear ducts. The up side is I can't spit on the sidewalk - the downside is that I constantly have dry eyes and mouth. My exeptions was turned down the first time because they lost the paperwork, the second time because they could only find half of the documentation that I sent and now I have been told I can try and appeal. I'm not sure what else I can do! I have sent in everything 3 times, have doctors at Walter Reed wanting to talk to anyone who will listen (No one at 1 Reserve Way would take their calls) and have no confidence that they will look at my documenation any differently. When I looked up the condtions in AR 40-501 Standards for Medical Fitness causes for rejection include Arthritis and Sjogrens. But for whatever reason I can't get anyone to read the documentary evidence compiled by my 2 doctors - both Rheumatoid Arthritis Specialists 1 an 06 and the other an 04. What can I do??? I am submitting another apeal, but I don't trust the system. Thanks for any advice you can give me.
Linda

By 1SG (207.32.7.118) on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 09:49 am:

You are truly getting the royal run around. You have plenty of documentation and certification that should get you released. There are only a couple of suggestions that might be of help that I have. First is to get help instead of doing this on your own. Do this by either contacting your nearest VA facility (which will work in conjunction with Walter Reed, but understand the paperwork shuffle better especially when it comes to appeals) or locate your nearest vet center for assistance. Lastly get legal help. They tend to get the red tape blown out of the water.

Another route that is always effective is to contact both your Senators and Congressmen and explain the situation. At this point it really isn't about you not following procedures, but rather the ineptness of those who are enforcing the policy.

I also hope that everything you are doing is being done by certified mail. Keep copies of everything you send and receive. Outside of these suggestions, it's hard to give advice because you can't control what is happening at the other end. I know your are frustrated, but hang in there.

By linda knight (151.196.179.218) on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 12:23 pm:

Thanks 1SG - I need all the help I can get. Any ideas about where to get an attorny? I supposedly only have until 5 March before I have to report. I live in the DC area and could use a good attrony in this. Getting into the VA facilities around here is very difficult. I have applied for benifits to be seen and now have to wait until it gets approved and I can get in. I have never felt so helpless in my life. Did put together a packet for my senator and congresman and found that Senator Kit Bond (R-Mo.) and Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.),made recommendations about discharging people in my health situation prior to being sent to a mobilization site. Again thank you. I will keep you posted.

By 1SG (199.120.69.127) on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 04:45 pm:

Finding a lawyer can been a pain because they are so specialized. If you could get into JAG, then they can get you pointed in the right direction, but that would probably not work for you. One way it to do a search on Google, type in "lawyers" + Washington, D.C. There will be a lawyer find that comes up and I would recommend the are area you are dealing with it military law. Then once you have picked one, then check them through the bar association. That can tell you their track record and whether they have had problems or not.

Another way would be to go through Legal Aid. That's generally for people who can't afford lawyers, but the do give recommendations. And if you can't afford a lawyer, they are excellent. You can find your local one again with going to http://www.google.com and typing in "legal aid" + Washington, D.C.

If you get your disablity accepted, that works in your favor. Will advise here also that generally first requests are turned down. You have enough to get disability, make sure that you pursue the appeal process! VA is severly overworked and understaffed, know this myself as I am a DAV as well.

By lameka jones (65.161.6.20) on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 02:02 pm:

how does the no child left behind clause affect, military personnel that has a child with ADHD. How does military personnel deal with, this disality of there child. and go to the feild, when the child has special needs. Is the parent suppose to sacrifice the childs education just to go to the feild or is the chain of command supposed to cooperate and make sure everything is done for the best interest of the child.

By 1SG (199.120.69.167) on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 04:45 pm:

Having been a single parent of a child with ADHD, I can assure my son got the best of care while I was in the Army. All the services have what is called the Exceptional Family Member Program. This program identifies that you have family or children with special needs. As far as no child left behind, there is no better place for a child with ADHD than within the DOD school system. They are specially trained counselors as well as send every teacher within the system through a course on how to work with children who have ADD/ADHD. And I can tell you that I didn't have problems with my son until I went into the civilian sector where they were not equipped to deal with his special needs. The doctors that cared for him did not just fill him full of pills, but worked with him to sustain him for a lifetime and not only did they work with him, but they worked with me as well to learn how to help my son help himself.

As far as going to the field and deploying, I did both and my child care providers were the best and were trained in how to deal with my son. I never had a minute of worry. This special training is why the military child care system is lauded and used as a guide for civilian companies to emulate. They have won award after award for their child care.

By philip barry (4.227.237.116) on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 09:45 pm:

If a soldier is chaptered out of the Army, with an "honorable discharge", can he still be accepted into the AGR program?

By 1SG (199.120.69.176) on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 09:07 am:

It will depend on what the RU code is. Generally as long as it is an Honorable Discharge, there is no problem; however, sometimes the RU code may require that you request a waiver.

By Jason (65.54.98.157) on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 09:14 pm:

Hi 1ST SRG, I was wondering, Im 29 years old with a HS Diploma that i recieved from distance training through an accredited University, My Recruiter says this is the same as a GED and says that the ARMY is only taking Infantry & Artillery. I have been studying immensely for the upcoming ASVAB and meps. I also have two E7 uncles in the ARMY right now, They tell me all i need for the job i would like is high ASVAB scores, Is this true? Is my only hope of going into the US ARMY Infantry or Artillery? Or is it up to the Army guidence counsaler? Thanks so much.

By Anonymous (68.185.134.167) on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 01:45 am:

My husband's 1sgt is starting paperwork to chapter him for failed pt tests. Will this be an honorable discharge?

By 1SG (199.120.69.234) on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 07:22 am:

Jason, if you have an accredited HS School diploma it is NOT the same as a GED. A GED is only a certification of academic knowledge, but a diploma says you completed the required academics. There is a difference there and the recruiter knows this. There are many who get GED certificates, but you have a diploma.

Secondly do not confuse the ASVAB with the AFQT (Armed Forces Qualification Test). There is a formula that takes portions of the ASVAB to get your AFQT score. The higher the score on you AFQT, the better your chances of first entering and secondly getting what you want. As for your MOS, you need to see if there is a required score on certain portions of your ASVAB. For example some MOSs you cannot get unless you have a GT score of 100.

But even if you get high scores, if there are no slots available, you won't get that MOS. It is always smart to go into the recruiters with at least 5 MOSs to look at. And believe me, there is more than just infantry and artillery. They are short, but not the only openings. If this recruiter will not work with you, then you need to ask for another. That is your right.

By 1SG (199.120.69.234) on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 07:26 am:

Anon, if he is being chaptered for failed PT tests, the yes, he should be getting a honorable discharge or a general discharge under honorable conditions. This will all depend on the recommendation and supporting paperwork that the First Sergeant presents to the chapter board.

By JC (68.79.31.98) on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 02:11 am:

1SG, I've been in the Army Reserve since 3/01 and the last 2 years I have been UA from weekend drills frequently. The unit I was assigned to sent my paperwork to the 99th RSC HQ to be processed for discharged. I had some issues with my life that needed to be worked out. I was out of contact and completely avoiding the unit. I've just recently got my act together, called them and explained the situation. Now I'm in the process of transfering to the National Guard and reclassing from 31U to 11B. I've been busted from E-4 back to E-1. The NG unit I am joining is a air assault unit, but I was told I may not get slot at air assault school because of my previous conduct.2?s 1. Will I be able to qualify to jump out of blackhawks w/out air assault qualification and 2.If I go to the Army Reserve componets school to reclass 11B, will I get trained well enough to perform as well as active duty 11B's in just 2 weeks

By 1SG (199.120.69.186) on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 08:43 am:

Unless your unit trains you, if you do not get a slot at Air Assault School, they cannot allow you to repel. The best that you will be allowed to do is sling load and set up the LZ. I know that sounds hard, but it becomes a liability factor if you are not school trained and earned the badge. It is the same strictures as Airborne. But I am more willing to believe that your unit has problems acquiring slots rather than your conduct that will determine whether you can attend Air Assault School or not.

As for the 11B training, the training that you get through the National Guard will be the same as what active duty has, just not as intense. You will get all the same instructions, but not as much hands on experience. Pay close attention and you will learn all you need to know.

By Ann Erickson (205.188.116.139) on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 10:42 pm:

I was in the AirForce for almost 8 years when I got out in 2001 on a hardship discharge because my dad died. I got out a SSgt and have thought many many times that I wished I hadn't gotten out. I have stopped by the recruiter's office and inquired but they said the Air Force was not accepting prior enlisted. Is there any way I could still get back in? My career field is Medical Administration. Any advise?

By 1SG (199.120.69.79) on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:09 am:

I would return to that recruiter's office and speak to another recruiter. Hate to say it, but sometimes recruiters can be lazy and doing prior service, especially with a hardship discharge, can be a lengthy process. It would be different if he/she had said there were no slots available, but to say they are not accepting prior service is a bald face lie, all the services are accepting prior service if they meet the requirements. You may have to submit a waiver explaining the change in your status, so be sure to ask about that.

If not, you might look into the other services and see if you can do a lateral transfer.

By Anonymous (66.199.26.5) on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 04:36 pm:

I just found out that my friends husband was charged with sodomizing another soldier and was sentenced to prison time Does she have the right to see the court papers what rights does my friend have.

thanks Brice

By 1SG (199.120.69.46) on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 06:54 pm:

First, from the sounds of it, her husband wasn't just charged, but rather convicted of the offense. I say this because you say he was sentenced to prison, if he was only charged there would be no sentencing. Now having said this, knowing the military justice system, he was convicted by courts martial, what type (as there are 3) I am not sure of. But, if this is the case, then there is probably more to his conviction than just jail time. I'm sure that more than likely he has received a bust in rank, forfeiture of pay, and more than likely a dishonorable discharge. I am also willing to bet that his jail time will be served at Ft. Leavenworth, were most military convictions are sent.

As to what her rights are will be decided by his final conviction and what they state as his punishment. She will have to be prepared because she may have lost all benefits if he was dishonorably discharged. Whether or not she can see the transcripts of his trial is another question. Usually they are not available for public viewing, but if she contacts the JAG office where he had his trial, they will be able to tell her whether she can see them or not and how his conviction will affect her.

By Joe Smith (64.19.248.87) on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 02:14 am:

Hey 1ST SGT, (see last message on january 2nd 2005)
I'm still fighting with the ARMY over my medical exemption and working on my appeal at the moment. I found out that the Commander had given me 6 months to get my medical stuff in order for my exemption but was unable to get all new documentation in before her final decision was made but I an currently working with my Lawyer to turn in new evidence on my condition. for my appeal since I've had a MRI, CT scan, Myelogram (an injection of dye in you spinal fluid for Stenosis)and then an nerve block injection in my neck,
I did have on question though; my orders run past my ETS date and looking at Stop/Loss MOS effected. I don't fall under any of them so if for some chance this gimped up old solider has to go to OIF do I ETS out on my contract date? Just to remind you I’m in the IRR and my MOS is 21J

By 1SG (199.120.69.36) on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:08 am:

Hate to say it, but more than likely if your exemption is denied, they will cut a new set of orders adjusting your ETS date to reflect the original time period contracted for serving. This is kind of like adjusting ETSs for time lost (AWOLs for one fall under this, for every day they are AWOL, they tack on a day to their ETS). What they will do is look at the original length of time you were going to serve, then go to your new reporting date and adjust your ETS from that. Keep in mind that dates aren't locked in and they determine them by obiligated length.

I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but unfortunately this is what they do. Have my fingers crossed you get this exemption, you've worked hard enough for it.

By Anonymous (70.56.70.23) on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 04:40 am:

i have a few questions my husband has a permant profile and has been on the over weight program for 3 years and since they keep telling him he's being chaptered well finally he heard from someone the paper work is being started if you could give me some info on how this proceedure will work and how long i just want some time to perpare.thanks

By 1SG (199.120.69.238) on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 09:06 am:

Chaptering a person for overweight can have him out within thirty days once the paperwork is submitted. And believe me there is not much to the paperwork. All they have to do is submit supporting evidence, which would be all his weigh-ins and BFI's as well as any counseling statements, to the approving authority. Since your husband has been on the program for three years, it will be quick.

By DAVID (65.249.61.66) on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 03:35 pm:

I have a question. I WAS DISCHARGED FROM THE ARMY IN 1992 I WAS DICHARGED INVOLUNTARY FOR WEIGHT FAILURE I RECIEVED A HONORABLE DISCHARGE FOR A 4 YEAR CONTRACT WHICH I DID 2 YEARS 8 MONTHS WHEN I WENT TO APPLY FOR MY G.I. BILL CHAPTER 30 I WAS DEINED AND TOLD I DIDN'T COMPLETE ENOUGH TIME IN MY CONTRACT I TOLD V.A. I COMPLETED 32 MONTHS AND WAS CHAPTER OUT BECAUSE OF WEIGHT FAILURE THEY STATED THEY COULDN'T FIND MY SEPARATION PACKET STATED THIS BUT MY DISCHARGE SAYS BAR TO RE-ENLIST
831 443 3554 DAVID JAMES PLEASE HELP

By 1SG (207.32.7.90) on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 08:27 am:

Someone from the VA is giving you the run around because a bar to reenlistment does not preclude you from using your GI Bill, especially since you received an Honorable Discharge. I'm not exactly sure on the 32 months because I believe the requirement might be 36 months.

The best advice that I can give you is to ask to see another representative at the VA or the supervisor of whoever you talked to. There is something wrong here.

By Joe Smith (4.26.174.44) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 08:00 pm:

Good News First Sargent. I got my exeption from the Army on a Hardship so I'm a happy camper. It took 8 months of fighting but in the end I got what I wanted. Thanks for all your help and advise throughout my ordeal.
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By 1SG (207.32.7.145) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 09:38 am:

So glad to hear that things worked out! It was a long haul, but the end results are all that matters!

By Joe Smith (4.26.174.44) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:48 am:

First SGT
Where is a good place to start in finding discharge papers from the Navy? The reason I'm asking is my grandmother is ill and she can clam benefits from the Navy but need the form. Of course my grandfather is dead. My mother can't find his DD214 but has his SS# and Service # any suggestions
?

By 1SG (207.32.7.151) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 04:53 pm:

You can either request it on line at the following address:

http://www.archives.gov/facilities/mo/st_louis/military_personnel_records.html

Of you can write and request at the following snail mail address:

National Personnel Records Center
9700 Page Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63132-5100

As long as you have his service number and social, there should be no problem in requesting his DD-214 or his records. That will help speed up the process and it should take about 4 to 6 weeks to get a response. Sometimes they can be even quicker than that.

By lilliangordon (151.169.1.28) on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 07:12 pm:

Good Afternoon.
My husband was discharged in April 2004 with a General discharge (under honorable conditions.) He was told he could upgrade his Discharge status to an Honorable one. He just recently got the paperwork from the VA office. What is the best thing to do? Any advise? He left his counsel papers in Georgia, and we're here in Alaska, where he has no way of getting the paperwork. He needs supporting documentation (such as his counsel papers) or letter of recommendations. The only problem is, is that all of his NCO's and fellow co-workers are either in Iraq or not in Alaska anymore. What should we do? What is the best way to get this done and out of the way. He has been stressing out about it and I would like to step in and help in any way that I can. Thanks, LILLIAN

By 1SG (199.120.69.51) on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 07:46 pm:

If he was active duty, it's going to be a long hard process to get his documentation together. First step that he needs to do is to have the VA representative help him contact the garrison command of where he was stationed. They will be able to get him in contact with the people he needs to get in touch with for the letters of recommendation.

Counselling statements are going to be much more difficult. He should have received copies of them when he was going through the process. Trying to get them from his company will be an effort in futility because these are only kept on file for six months after the personnel are discharged. I doubt that they exist any more.

There is one possibility that may exist for him to get these and again this means contacting the garrison command and having them see if the Personnel Section has the copies of his discharge packet. They might still exist in the packet that the company submitted for his discharge.

By Anonymous (199.79.138.229) on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 02:48 pm:

iam about to take the asvab test next week this will be my third time taking it. i have come close to scoring over a 31 but came short with a 27. i was wondering by taking the computer version do you get points taking off for getting a question wrong or do you keep your points because i know the paper version is how many you can get right

By 1SG (199.120.69.223) on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:01 am:

It is the same scoring process on both versions.

By PROVO6 (192.154.91.225) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 02:16 pm:

You give some exceptional advice to these dedicated troops. I had a 15 year break in service and last year enlisted for 3 years in the PA Ntl Guard in a combat arms MOS. I am 39 and have been attending prep drills for OCS.

Over the past year, while staying in shape, I've had a hip strain that was geting worse, preventing me from walking on many occasions. I saw 2 Ortho specialists last month and I have osteoarthritis in the hip. The Natl Guard hasn't paid me any bonuses, I've attended no schools, and, despite my exceptional performance and PT to this point, I will not be able to complete OCS's road marches and vigorous 8 weeks. I am considering toughing-it-out in OCS, getting injured and sent back, or I can present my medical findings and see if they will medical dicharge me. Bottom line, I want all the way out or all the way in.

By 1SG (199.120.69.197) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 03:23 pm:

Although I admire and understand your dedication, a little word of advice from the voice of experience here. Go for the medical discharge now. First reason I say this is that you now have a condition that is going to continue to get worse and the more you aggravate it, the worse you are going to get. If you don't bring it to light, you may find yourself nailed to the wall later by them saying you tried to cover the condition. By brining it to light now, you may get a profile until the condition gets better or they will just discharge you, which is what I'm laying my money on.

Second, I came to a crossroads in my career where I had to make a decision because of bad knees and bad hips. I had been on a P3 profile for many years and the Army decided we P3ers had to either lift those profiles or be discharged. I felt I had too much time in to throw it away, so I lifted the profile. If I had chosen the medical discharge, my life quality of life would be a lot better now because I wouldn't have continued to damage these areas. Although I am still a young woman, I can no longer walk without the assistance of either a cane or chair depending on the day and am looking at more major sugeries just to keep my mobile. Had I taken the medical discharge, I wouldn't be in this position today.

I don't regret my decision because I loved the Army, but hindsight gives me the wisdom to tell others to think twice about what the ramifications will be further on down the line.

By PROVO6 (68.84.55.251) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 08:41 pm:

I am extremely impressed with all of your advice and particularly with regard to your recommendation, above. Believe it or not, after much research and consultation with other trusted resources, your input finalizes my decision to pursue the medical route. I do want to walk the dogs, cut the grass, and enjoy relatively unassisted walking.

You are really good. I've been reading threads as old as 2000.

Respectfully,
Chris

By 1SG (199.120.69.108) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 10:53 pm:

I think you have made the right decision and I thank you for the compliment.

By Nuts4ridin (148.75.47.66) on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 09:59 am:

Chris is right,1SG, you are awesome and never cease to amaze me with your vast knowledge. Kudos!!!!! This forum is so lucky to have you!

By 1SG (199.120.69.67) on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 10:33 am:

Man, you guys are making me blush! Just doing what any good First Sergeant should be able to do.

By Anonymous (4.242.195.183) on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 09:25 pm:

I was told i Have HEP-C ,MEP Rejected MY Pysical But Told Me'To have Doc Give Me Antibiotic And Than Come Back PS,Thay Did"Not Tell Me I Had HEPC , found Out Later Iam Takeing Treatment Right Now Will BE Done Soone Whate Are My Chances Of Geting Back In,Have Had Over 10Years In NG Looking TO Relist

By 1SG (207.32.7.217) on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 11:55 am:

If you came up positive for the test for HEPC, it does not mean you have the disease, but it does mean that you carry it and it will activate later on down the line. Anyone who shows positive on this test is disqualified for service as you present a danger to others as although you may not atively have the disease, you can transmit it to others.

If you were given that advice, you need to report the person who told you that as they are setting you up for fraud. You are undergoing treatment for this and it should be reported. If you try to cover this up and are discovered, which it will be hard to continue to hide this problem, you will be discharged and lose all your benefits.

Choice is up to you, do you really want to risk it? But most importantly do you really want to expose your fellow soldiers to this?

By Anonymous (63.251.212.249) on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 07:01 pm:

5 years prior service in the middle of getting paperwork together for the ARNG, and had a first time, single incident of a kidney stone. The MEPs doctors didn't like that. Everything is fine now, but from what I can find, you have to wait a year before re-submitting the med pre-screen to MEPs. Any way to get a medical waiver before then?

Thanks!

By 1SG (199.120.69.28) on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:27 am:

ARNG is a little different in their rules than active duty is. You will have to double check with the recruiter, but generally if there is a wait period required on a condition that presents itself, you have to wait that period of time before trying again. No waivers before the expected time.

There is a reason for this, which is seeing if this can become a chronic condition. Many times with kidney stones, it is not an isolated incident and can happen again several times before a year is up. The older you are, the more likely that this can happen. This can become a problem because then it is considered a chronic condition and there's no getting around that.

By Daniel Haynes (207.255.130.206) on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 01:27 am:

1sg,
5 years ago I left the Army, chaptered out for weight control after 2 years and recieved a General Under Honorable with re-2. I have spoken to many an enlisted recruiter who have all basically said no problem, easy waiver. My question is: Can I enter a non scholarship ROTC program? The requirements dont seem to difficult, and it seems they look more at course performance, grades, physical fitness, etc. I have long since conquered my weight issues, and can pass the APFT with ease. I also feel my experience with this issue and the fact I've gotten past it is a valuable tool that could benefit other soldiers possibly dealing with fitness problems. I also recently applied for an upgrade to my discharge status, and believe whole heartedly it will be approved. So what do ya think? Any advise you can offer is greatly appreciated.

By 1SG (207.32.7.199) on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 11:15 am:

You should have no problem in entering the ROTC program if you meet all the requirements. It will depend on the school really whether they will accept you or not and that's hard to predict. I can tell you I know a couple of people who were discharged for exactly the same reasons as you and had no problem getting into ROTC. Keep in mind that they are having a shortage of junior officers and that will work to your advantage.

It also helps that you have applied for your discharge to be upgraded.

By monique jordan (63.156.208.253) on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 02:52 pm:

Hi 1SG,

I have a situation going on right now. My Command and 1SG sat me to talk with me. About two minutes into the conversation my CO pulls out two letters stating to me that they were going to start chapter 5-17 paperwork on me. Here is the reason who. Recently I had to go see a head specialist in another state but because of the hurricane Rita/Katrina problems all of the hotels were filled to the brim and the per diem for military went out of the window. To make a long story short, The hotel charged me $200(tax included)a night, but before I even made the arrangements I called back to my duty station and talked with everyone connected with reimbursement. Everyone told me to go ahead and keep the appoint, make the reservation and we'll see you when you get back. Well when I got back from my appointment and went to take care of my voucher paperwork, they told me that I was only getting back up to the regular per diem. The whole trip set me back $600 because I had to pull money from other places to pay for my stay and by the time they got through handling my paperwork my account was in the negative for $900. Now I didn't mention that I was already suffering from depression before I even got to this duty station less than 4 mos ago but now I'm out of $900, plus the head doctor told me at my appt, which took all of ten minutes, that if I was to go to a medical I wasn't getting any money and then quoted to me what some article said about concerning migraines.

By monique jordan (63.156.208.253) on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 02:53 pm:

Hi 1SG,

I have a situation going on right now. My Command and 1SG sat me to talk with me. About two minutes into the conversation my CO pulls out two letters stating to me that they were going to start chapter 5-17 paperwork on me. Here is the reason who. Recently I had to go see a head specialist in another state but because of the hurricane Rita/Katrina problems all of the hotels were filled to the brim and the per diem for military went out of the window. To make a long story short, The hotel charged me $200(tax included)a night, but before I even made the arrangements I called back to my duty station and talked with everyone connected with reimbursement. Everyone told me to go ahead and keep the appoint, make the reservation and we'll see you when you get back. Well when I got back from my appointment and went to take care of my voucher paperwork, they told me that I was only getting back up to the regular per diem. The whole trip set me back $600 because I had to pull money from other places to pay for my stay and by the time they got through handling my paperwork my account was in the negative for $900. Now I didn't mention that I was already suffering from depression before I even got to this duty station less than 4 mos ago but now I'm out of $900, plus the head doctor told me at my appt, which took all of ten minutes, that if I was to go to a medical I wasn't getting any money and then quoted to me what some article said about concerning migraines. Continued on next posting

By monique jordan (63.156.208.253) on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 02:57 pm:

I went through all of that mess and money for a ten minute lecture on how I was wasting his time. Well, needless to say, my depression reached an all time high to where I tried to commit suicide because no one was trying to help me with the situation. I know this is long but please help me. I've never done anything wrong in the 5 1/2 yrs that I've been serving. The only thing I want to know is what are my rights. Oh, I left out the fact that I've been counsled since I've been here and the only inprocessing item I got was a meal card. I haven't receive any (not any) counseling on anything. What are my rights if I want to fight this?

By 1SG (199.120.69.199) on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 10:51 pm:

If you want to fight this, your only recourse is to make an appointment with JAG and get guidance. The chapter under which you are being discharged is specifically for those conditions that while not permanent have progressed to a point where they are interfereing with you duties, but doesn not warrant disability. They don't have to prove that is it interfereing, only that the potential exist that it could. Basically all they need to show is that you have a problem, have sought treatment, and that it is causing problems for you at work and that you have been given the chance to seek treatment and what the treatment is. Keep in mind in order to fight this, you will need documentation to support everything that you have said.

By yungstud84 (24.10.72.36) on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 05:50 am:

1SG,
i was disharged 22 APR 2004 and i am getting ready to make an effort to re-enlist. i was discharged for misconduct. RE-3, JKA, AR 635-200 para 14-12b. pretty much i was caught drinking underage, but i had a BAC of 0.000, what are the chances of getting back in? and would you recommend going reserves first? i want active duty, but my other question is this, If i am my waiver is not granted do i have to wait six months to try the reserves? thanks for the time 1SG

By 1SG (207.32.7.141) on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:04 pm:

Depending on what the re-enlistment rates are like will dictate whether or not you waiver will be favorably received or not. Now, having said that and based on what you said your offense was, I think you stand a fairly good chance of getting back in. If you are turned down, you don't have to wait to try the Reserves. There you stand a better chance of getting the waiver and that will smooth the road for you getting back on active duty.

By Wil Mendez (71.244.62.178) on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 02:59 pm:

Hello 1SG,

I am a reservist that would like to get a AGR job as a 92Y (Supply Specialist) not MOS Q yet, but I am colorblind person and this MOS requieres normal color vision. My question is, Does the Army has a waiver for color blind person?

Thank you!

w.m.

By 1SG (207.32.7.84) on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 04:30 pm:

When there is a pre-requisite that you must not be color blind, then there is no waiver.

By Anonymous (216.12.192.74) on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 11:27 pm:

If a person receives a medical discharge (before he finishes basic) because of back injury, can he reenter later, if he heals completely. They are saying that if he takes a medical discharge, he can never come back. His injury is a mandatory discharge, but they are trying to tell him to take the discharge as a EPTS (as his only chance of ever getting back in, if he heals). Is this true?

By doug callahan (66.53.17.5) on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 07:00 pm:

Hi. I recently turned 38 yrs old and am interested in pursuing OCS through the US Army. I have a college degree. Can I join the regular army now that the age limit is 40 and waiver to get into OCS or am I better off going into the National Guard if I am looking to do OCS? Thanks.

By 1SG (207.32.7.113) on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 11:02 pm:

On the back injury, it will all depend on what the initial injury was due to whether or not you will be able to re-enter the service. In most cases of back injuries however; rarely are they allowed back into service.

On the question of OCS. You stand a better chance throught the NG because active has a ceiling on age limit for application to OCS.

By Anonymous (68.108.187.187) on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:43 pm:

Hello, I have been out of active duty since 02/2001, I got out on a personality disorder being that I had a bad miscarriage and had to have out patient surgery. The discharge was honorable. Well now I would like to join the national guard or army reserve and go Green and Gold being that I have my BS in Business Administration. Is there any chance I can get back in whereas I really miss the military and have for a couple of years.

TW

By 1SG (207.32.7.225) on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 06:04 pm:

Since you have a honorable discharge, there should be no problem with you entering the NG or the Reserves. Going Green to Gold is a different thing however since you already possess a degree. Green to Gold is for those who haven't completed their degree. However, you could apply for OCS, but your reason for discharge may work against you.

By Brenda York (4.227.11.108) on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 08:44 pm:

I am writing on behalf of my friend. She was discharged about a year ago under a General Under Honorable conditions. She really misses the Army and was a very skilled and capable Chemical soldier. However... She had a particular female NCO that just, simply put, didn't like her and made it damned near impossible to stay in the Army. This NCO told her that she couldn't get back in with an RE:3 and a Misconduct on her DD214. My friend was heartbroken. Now, a year later, she's trying to get back in on Active duty and start off where she left off. You know, clean slate. But recruiters won't return her phone calls. Army chatline recruiters suggest that she log out and find a cilivan job. And going in to see them face to face only resulted in her coming home in tears. Everyone is treating this girl like she has AIDS or something and I don't think it's right. She never did drugs, sold drugs, assulted soldiers or NCOs or mouthed off. She just had a supervisior, an NCO that didn't like her, had put her out under Misconduct and basically ruined her military career. Is there any way she can get back in the Army, back to active duty with a waiver? And if she's shot down as far as getting a waiver, is there anything else she could do?

By 1SG (207.32.7.114) on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:05 pm:

Generally with a code of RE3, you have to wait at least two years before trying to re-enter with a waiver. This is why she is being put off. Depending on what her mis-conduct was will dictate her chances of her waiver being approved and when she writes her waiver, she must admit her wrong doing and show how she has overcome the adversity and how she has changed her life. I hate to say this, but one NCO cannot be the only reason why she was discharged. There must be recommendations from her ENTIRE chain and documentation of her trangressions before she was even considered for discharge. There may be a lot more to this than you are aprised of.

By SPC Gallo (71.197.191.233) on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 06:11 pm:

I have a question....
I am active duty and I am trying to get a compassionate reassignment closer to home due to family issues. I was under the impression that no one can stop my 4187 from going through, if someone in the chain disapproves it, it still has to go through. Is that correct or was I misled? Also, I have been searching for the regulations that govern the compassionate reassignment and the da form 4187. Any help would be greatly appreciated

By Anonymous (65.28.34.208) on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 04:44 pm:

I was seperated under 5-17 in April of 2003.I was an 11b assigned to a recon unit,and after returning from Afghanistan went to mental health, where I was told I was suffering from PTSD.I was given an honorable discharge, and a reentry code of 3. I went to the VA, and they confirmed that it was PTSD. Unfortunatley many of the counselors at the local VA are reservists, and were deployed. So, they prescribed drugs to me and that was the extent of their care. The drugs were worse than the nightmares, so I stopped using them, and found a Christian PTSD rehab program to help. It has been three years and I no longer suffer from the effects of PTSD and am about to graduate college. I am looking at the Army and Airforce pararescue as options. Am I disqualified, or is there something I should be doing to help the process.

By Anonymous (24.110.233.239) on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 02:01 pm:

Hi I recently was discharged from the Air Force under honorble conditions.

I am in the IRR and must report to MacDill AFB for Individual Ready Reserve screening.

Basically they just update your records and run various medical tests on you to see if you are fit to serve if needed.

My question is do they give urine tests at these muster duty calls?

I admit I enjoy weed and I am fine having to quit a month ahead of time but I would still like to know anyways.

By lcabete (70.231.32.237) on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 02:55 pm:

Hello, short and to the point. I was discharged with a general under honerable conditions. Misconduct, unbecoming of an NCO. I am married to an active duty member, we have 4 children randing fron 13years to 20 months. I'm 33 years old and i want to go back on active duty. I spent 5 years in the national guard and got out with a honorablr discharge. what are my chanc

By Jeffery Lee Neal (198.209.243.122) on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 03:13 pm:

This is a question I have been looking for a answer to all over the place and couldn't find one. I am in the ARNG and have been really debating weather or not it is possible to to reclass from a 31b (MP) to a 18a,b.. ect. (special force) I Found some criteria on a web site that says "not currently serving in a resticted MOS or branch". That was one of the criteria. Not sure what their considering a resticted MOS. Also It said "no soldier regardless of MOS or basic branch will be recruited if he is unable to reclassify from his current MOS or basic branch into cmf 18". Can a MP reclassify to a cmf 18.

thanks for your help

By Anonymous (12.17.193.136) on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 09:42 am:

I was dicharged in 1991 for going awol I recieved a general under honerable condition is there anyway I can get back into the service

By Anonymous (74.130.9.218) on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:06 pm:

Strange question! My stepfather has prior military service of 13 years. He recently ( a little over a year ago) renelisted in the national guards. After being back in for 6 months they are telling him that he now has to have a ged. His rank is a sergent. He has been training guys that are being deployed to iraq. He is being told that if he does not get his ged that they will pull a rank. I do not understand how this is possible, since the ged was not a requirement when the rank was given some 15 years ago. In the beginning he was told he could get an accredited diploma, which he did online. They then told him that this was not acceptable. He was then told as long as he has 15 college credits ( life skills) he would be fine. They sent in his paperwork and he has 60 credits. Can he get a waiver to waive the ged or what are his options? He is old school and does not feel like he could pass the new ged. He told them to just put him out if they feel this way. I feel like this is man that is willing to go to iraq or where ever, and this is now an issue. Even a major took his side. What are his options? Can he stay in-which is what he wants?

By 1SG (65.42.90.34) on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 10:53 am:

This is hard to answer as you are dealing with National Guard rather than active duty. They have different regulations because they are governed by the state rather than the nation. I can tell you that even though there wasn't that stipulation 15 years ago, since that time there has been a change and would have had a grandfather clause written into it to give those who don't have the education time to get it. Just because a regulation was in different many years ago, does not shelter you from the changes that occur. There really isn't much of an option at this point other than to get the GED.

By John Wayne (144.59.12.138) on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:23 am:

Yo 1st sgt I am currently on active duty and in korea. My chain of command was going to chapter me out on a chapter 9 which is an alcohol rehab failure. Well i continued to drink and got into a couple of fights and so they changed my chapter to a 14-12b which is a patterns of misconduct. They told me that i would be getting a general under honorable conditions discharge. Now what kind of Re code could i be expecting to recieve on my dd214 when i get it. As i am hoping to be able to come back in later on down the road...thanks...

By 1SG (66.73.197.68) on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:02 pm:

If I remember right, that would be an RE 3 code. But take heart, even with that code, it is possible (at least at this time) to submit a waiver.

By tiny1984 (216.67.150.90) on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 01:21 pm:

what is an RE 3 code - what does that mean? and what does a /3B mean? I have been out for over twenty years and have never had to deal with my dd form 214 until now - and now I'm starting to wonder what all these little codes mean... can anyone help?

By 1SG (66.172.239.149) on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 06:45 pm:

RE3 code is usually a restriction to reenlist. Without the code book, it's a little hard to tell you what each exact code is. As a rule of thumb, if you have a RE3 code, then you are barred from reenlisting and the other code is the reason for the bar.

By Anonymous (67.168.30.12) on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 03:36 am:

Hello 1st.SGT.

I have a P-3 physical profile for lower extremities,due to a condition of Plantar Fascitis,and I have a medial menicus tear on R.knee,and I'm pending surgery,my unit is making me deploy by all means,I'm sure that I'll have problems carrying my bags and equipment when I deploy,and wearing my entire protective gear,and not able to run for cover while under a mortar attack,or asist my comrades in need for help,or execute any combat maneauver while taking fire,what can I do about this situation?

By 1SG (66.172.205.28) on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 05:43 am:

If you are under a P3 profile, then you are supposed to be in non-deployable status and not considered for deployment. You need to contact your doctor and notify him of what is transpiring, then your next stop should be the IG.

By Colby Blythe (152.121.16.7) on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:18 pm:

So I am being discharged from the USCG with a general discharge under honorable conditions for popping positive for cocaine. I have read several websites different forums and they all have said that it is possible to re-enlist in the National Guard or Reserves, I have only been in the Guard for a year. Does anyone know for sure if you can re-enlist? If so how long is the waiting period before you can apply?

By 1SG (66.172.205.28) on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 09:37 pm:

It is possible if you are granted a waiver, it's not automatic. You have to wait at least a year before you can do this.

By Buzzsaw (66.193.128.97) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 02:15 pm:

1 SG... i am a 37 year old with a BA and MA. I am wanting to join the National Guard and go through the OCS program. I took the ASVAB and scored 97% AFQT, 134 GT score. I took the physical and passed everything, but.... I have passed 2 kidney stones over the last four years. The last one was about a year ago. THe MEPS doctor gave my a Permanent Disqualificatin for the Kidney Stones. He did say however that I could submit a waiver to the NGB. My question is... What are my chances on getting a Medical Waiver through? My recruiter is working on the paperwork, but I would like to know if there is anything else I can do. Other than these kidney stones I am in perfect health. Would my higher ASVAB scores help with getting the waiver?

Thank you for any information you can give me.

By 1SG (66.172.205.28) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 04:34 pm:

Your best bet is concentrating on the waiver. Make sure you have medical evidence to back up your recovery and cause of the kidney stones. Other than the waiver, that's about all you can do. 97 on your AFQT is outstanding. However, will say this, you may be accepted to the NG, but because of the waiver for the DQ, you may not be accepted OCS. This will all depend on how much of a need is present whether they will allow the waiver in OCS or not.

By Anonymous (152.163.100.145) on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 11:10 pm:

1 SGT,I have a question my son is in ait and had requested to go to Airborne school at meps .They told him he would be required to apply during ait.Well he was told by his drill sgt to pass the pt test for it and he would file the necessary paper work.He did all requested of him and also took his airborne physical and passed all with flying colors.Now the ds is claiming he lost the paper work and is not helping him in the least.Acutaly he is hindering him.He was very motivated and now is getting very disturbed by the way his ds is just pushing the buck.And his 1Sgt sits bac and lets it happen.He is getting very turned off to the miltary by the casual way the cadre are handling his request and he does not have much time left in ait.What steps would you advise.He is willing to acept if the Dept of Army denies his request but he wants a fair chance to apply after being lied to by meps.I can now see why they have a retention problem when you break someones spirit by not doing your job of just fwd the request to the proper channels.Why turn a highly motivated solider into a negative one.It will only hurt anyone who now asks him about the Army

By 1SG (66.172.205.28) on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 06:51 am:

If his DI is not helping him and he has already gone through the 1SG and nothing has been happening, then he needs to follow his chain of command and go up to the next higher authority. Will say that his paperwork may not have been submitted because they don't have any slot authorizations.

Depending also on what his chose as his options are probably the reason why he was not allowed the school as part of his enlistment. You can get either station of choice or a school, not both.

If he doesn't make it to the school during AIT (which is not unusual because he is still in a school status), then he should be able to apply when he gets to his duty station.

Will also say that if he isn't being assigned to Ft. Bragg or to an airborne company, then it's harder to get into airborne school.

By Anonymous (152.163.100.145) on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 10:51 am:

1SGT Thanks for your quick reply yes I understand about his mos of choice.It is more of a thing of them having him take the airborne medical etc.And if they just told him there no slots were availiable instead of telling him yes they need your mos and then losing the papers etc.They Just needed to be honest And admit I dont want to be bothered filling out your necessary paper work.Dont lead someone on with false hopes.He naturaly did not want to go over someones head and have to pay the price for them getting back at him when he is in trainning status.As he puts it he should be like the girls dont complete the runs cry to the ds get do and get what you want from them.I guess this is the new army.Again thanks for your opinion I have read many of your post I wish there were more like yourself to help the troops out .You do a outstanding job.

By Anonymous (91.10.126.223) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 02:42 pm:

1st sgt: my husband has a P-3 profile on his record for knee sugery due to injuries and we believed that made him non-deployable. However; he was deployed irregardless. He aslo has plantars fascitis which they hinders his walking, etc quite badly, especially when he is on his feet constantly during deployment. He has since returned and is currently preparing for another deployment.
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By Anonymous (91.10.126.223) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 02:45 pm:

I am really confused on something. He has another problem which is a severe documented mdical problem that ispersonal in nature and I would prefer not to name. The problems he has with his feet and knee, and this additional problem are far too much for him to deploy and remain a good soldier as it will gratly limit his abilities. I would like to mention that this third medical problem has been going on for many years, somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 years or so and only got to the severe stage when he deployed the past time. He could hardly handle it he was in alot of pain and it kept him regularly distracted. Since he returned he saw a dctor almost immediately and has seen others periodically since and keeps being told there is absolutely nothing that can be done about this medical condition. We recently found out that is not true. There is a procedure that may or may not work, and he has started treatment for it. He is to deploy very soon and after finally finding a military doctor (Colonel) who says he may be able to stop the problem and discussed it in depth with him, the doctor told him that he will give him a P-3 profile and he will be non-deployable at that point, if the treatment doesn’t work. continued~

By Anonymous (91.10.126.223) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 02:47 pm:

. We are returning to speak to this doctor in the next month for the final treatment, which to date hasnt made it any better and in fact it continues to be as bad as it was prior to any treatments. He is getting so much crap from his company and we are both completely stresed that they are doing this to him. They are claiming that he waited til the last minute to do anything. It is in his medical records, as well as the fact that his original surgery which caused it was done by a military doc. If they didnt know about it before, its because they didnt do their homework. He has alwys had this problem, and it only became severe with his prior deployment. The doc who is now seeing him has said that if he gives him a P-3 the military will discharge him and he will lose his career, etc. Now the command is treaqwting very badly, placed him on Advon, to leave on revoked his block leave prior t deployment telling him he is going to deploy. Period. They say that they can still deploy you with a P-3, which he is about to have more than one. They know this. In speaking to a legal representative, they stated that the command has the authority to deploy you iregardless of a P-3 non-deployable profile, but when I read your column it states that they can't. Also IG confirms what I stated here, that command can deploy you irregardless, it's their call. continued~

By Anonymous (91.10.126.223) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 02:48 pm:

. I dont get it the colonel who is the doc told us different, you say different, has there been a recent change in law and where do we find this to show command? I can't imagine them lying considering the authoritative positions in which they hold in the military command. But its really concerning. Also, can command call this physician and try to change his mind? Because they intend to do so before my husband returns and they informed him of this as well. It starting to look like someone is not following rules and we're very concerend that they are not paying any concern whatsoever to my husbands medical issues just so they can keep their deployment numbers up. IN fact, they did say something to the effect of that they need to keep as many people deployment ready as possible and I feel they are retaliating by not allowing him leave for even suggesting he has non-deployable medical issues. Also, it is possible they are keeping him working constantly and denying pre-deployment block leave so tha he cannot seek assistance from an outside physician of the civlian nature. Please help. Give us any information you can, because he is being treated very unfairly and somebody isn't playing by the book here, its hard to know who to litento any more. Thank you, he is to leave here in one month and the game is in their favor. Sorry so long

By 1SG (66.172.205.28) on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 06:24 am:

A P3 profile does put you in non-deployable status, but the command does have the ability to overrule that in time of war. Yes, it's a Catch-22, but what they are telling you is right. The command can call the doctor and discover just exactly what the medical opinion is of the situation, but they cannot influence the decision one way or the other. Your husband's best bet is to go for the discharge. He will not lose everything because he will have to go before a medical board and he will either be medically retired or given the option of severance depending on what his affliction is. He will also be eligible for disabiliy through the VA.

I am also a little confused. Does he or does he not have the P3 profile? At one point you say that if he is given the profile, he will be discharged? This seems to indicate he doesn't have one. As for seeing a civilian doctor as opposed to a military doctor, civilians do not have the official pull of a military doctor and if this is not a recognized treatment, but experimental, this will also cause problems.

By Anonymous (91.10.99.181) on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 11:23 am:

update: my husband does have a P-3 but on his knee not on his other problem, thats the most current problem. he wwent and saw the doc yesterday and they basically had a change in heart after talking to the army command. anyway, things did a complete flip flop and gthey treated him more like a malingerer than a person who needed medical care. thats just not right, but said he will be going, and when he returns if hes still having problems they will recommend him for the medboard for getting out. They refused to place any kind of restrictions on him of any kind in his healthful favor, and instead told him he needed to go he has a job to do, and they werent very kind about it either. they did reinstate his leave now that they are sure he wont get a P-3, they say he can go onleave. Thanks for getting back to me, we have learned a lot about how much they care about his health and although we uderstnad their priorities, a useless person is no good to anyone, i guess they will learn this the hard wya with soime of the problems some of these guys are going over there with. I have a lot of respect fr the military and their effort, but this just doesnt seem right. Treatment like this is a judgement call I suppose, but I wonder how many in command actually have the skills to make medical judgement calls? I am praying for all of the soldiers, I am worried, there are so many of them with med problems going over in this group, its amazing. I hope none of them endanger others with their lack of full-capacity health-wise? We all need to pray. This is worrisome. Thank you for your answers, this is exactly what they told us. You're good! Have a good day!

By Anonymous (91.10.98.33) on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 07:05 am:

hi. would you please help me out by deleting my comments as I cant figure out how to myself. thank you

By robmanuel (74.92.180.133) on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 01:38 pm:

I am retired US Army, whlie in basic training 1i 1969, I took the GED test and passed it, I am tying to attend local colleges and I need a transcript of my GED. I was at Ft. Benning, Ga. Is there anyway in the world to obtain this tanscript?

By 1SG (66.172.205.28) on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 04:16 pm:

There should be a copy in your files at St. Louis, but if not, you can contact the Education Center at Benning and they should be able to tell you how to track your transcript.

By Anonymous (75.53.191.74) on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:09 pm:

i need some help!!!
my daughter is being discharged with an article 513 honorable she said... i belive medical... this is my problem... she was not in for the whole 3 years that she sign up for... she would had stayed in but after she was raped by a another army guy while in training she has not been able to adjust. she just want to come home and forget what happened, which i know she never will. I want her to be able to go to school and was wondering if she qualifies for any help of any kind....

By 1SG (66.172.205.28) on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:06 am:

Hate to say it, but there is no such thing as a 513 honoralbe. What she probably said was that she received an article 15, but is still eligible for a honorable discharge.

As long as she gets an honorable discharge, she will still be eligible for her for her compensations.

By Francisco Martinez (206.159.165.2) on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 02:43 pm:

I was chaptered out active duty Army May 2003 full honorable discharge chapter 5/17 on my return from Enduring Freedom....I had an RE3 separation code....I was told I could get back in with a waiver after 3 years...It is now 2008 and I have been basically begging to get back in the Army since 2005....The recruiters have no idea what to do for me in Jamestown NY 14701, they say I have to get a psycological evaluation but everytime I goe noone knows how to approach the evaluation....Ive been to Buffalo VA and everything....All I want to do is serve again I've even been college educated along the way....Im about to give up, its been a fighting struggle and noone will help me I feel I've done all I can....Don't seem right combat veteran with the 82nd begging to get back in.....Any advice????AIRBORNE....